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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Edward Snowden on Passwords
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Volokh Conspiracy: Edward Snowden’s impact

A lot of readers have seen John Olivers amusing interview of Edward Snowden. If you havent seen it yet, its worth a watch. One of Olivers themes is that Snowden actually hasnt had a major impact on American politics. Surveillance law is too complicated, Oliver suggests, and Snowden doesnt have a simple message. But I think there are other reasons why Snowden hasnt had a big impact on American public opinion and also reasons that probably doesnt matter for achieving Snowdens goals. Here are some tentative thoughts on this big topic. Ill hope to follow up later, with more firm views, in light of comments and responses.

Ill begin with public opinion. Although the Snowden disclosures have impacted public opinion about government surveillance in some ways, they havent caused a major shift. Different polls are worded in different ways and suggest different things. But my overall sense is that public opinion has long been roughly evenly divided on U.S. government surveillance and continues to be roughly evenly divided post-Snowden. For example, in 2006, a poll on NSA surveillance suggested that 51% found NSA surveillance acceptable while 47% found it unacceptable. Shortly after the Snowden disclosures began, public opinion was equally divided about the Section 215 program. And just a few weeks ago, a Pew Research poll from last month found public opinion pretty evenly divided again:

Overall, 52% describe themselves as very concerned or somewhat concerned about government surveillance of Americans data and electronic communications, compared with 46% who describe themselves as not very concerned or not at all concerned about the surveillance.

The polling questions arent asking identical questions, so any conclusions have to be tentative. But on the whole, I dont think the Snowden disclosures have caused a major shift in how the public thinks about national security surveillance.

The question is, why?

As I see it, a significant reason is that the message of the Snowden disclosures was muddled by their diversity and volume. The disclosures started with a legitimately huge story. Unbeknownst to the public, the innocuous-seeming Section 215 law had been interpreted, very implausibly, to allow a program of almost-universal collection of telephone records. That was a really big deal. That one program impacts most people in the U.S., and it is based on a surprising and secret interpretation of the law. The existence of this program was troubling on a lot of fronts. I have to speculate about a counterfactual, which is always fraught with difficulty. But I would guess that just leaking this one program could have significantly changed public opinion about NSA surveillance.

But thats not what happened. Instead, Snowden apparently took over a million classified documents and passed the full set off to like-minded journalists. The various journalists have then gone through the trove and have picked out what they think should be published, resulting in long strings of stories over time.

This muddled the message for a few reasons. First, the rest of the Snowden disclosures never packed the punch of the initial Section 215 disclosures. A lot of the Snowden stories just filled in details about programs that we already knew about. Sure, the stories were written to create an impression of scandal. But a lot of times they just told us that the NSA was doing pretty much what you would have guessed they were doing.

Consider last falls story in the German newspaper Der Spiegel, based on internal NSA documents taken by Snowden, on which forms of encryption the NSA can decrypt readily and which ones it cant. The NSA was established in large part to crack encryption schemes. Its hard to see the scandal in the NSA doing what the NSA was created to do.

Second, the volume and diversity of stories made it hard to foster a coherent response. A single narrative can lead to a single focused reaction. But hundreds of different stories, which may or may not suggest a problem in each depending on your perspective, and which describe different aspects of different programs well, what do you do with that? Snowdens supporters envision each story as adding more more fuel to the same fire. But I think it came off to a lot of people as hundreds of pockets of smoke each of which might or might not, upon investigation, end up being caused by a fire that were hard to get a sense of as a whole.

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Edward Snowden schools John Oliver in the art of password-making

It turns out there was more to the Edward Snowden interview John Oliver conducted on "Last Week Tonight" this week, and HBO has now posted a clip on YouTube.

While this portion of their interview was not as confrontational as the portion that aired Sunday night, it's just as informative to a public presumably ill-informed and under-protected when it comes to online passwords.

As Oliver learned, writing "onetwothreefour" is not an acceptable password. Neither is, "passwerd."

According to Snowden, a former contractor with the National Security Agency, any password consisting of eight characters or less can be hacked almost instantaneously. Oliver revealed that his password has only five characters.

So what should someone like Oliver do? Well, Snowden has a suggestion for what he considers to be a secure password. But it's one that Oliver definitely doesn't like.

What is it? Watch the clip to find out.

This segment is part of the longer interview Oliver recently conducted with Snowden in Moscow. The larger portion included Oliver confronting Snowden with the fact that he didn't have complete knowledge of all of the sensitive information he leaked to the media.

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PunditFact: Fact-checking John Oliver’s interview with Edward Snowden about NSA surveillance

Most Americans have a fuzzy understanding of what the National Security Agency can and cannot see with its surveillance programs, much less what a former NSA contractor named Edward Snowden tried to do about it.

That's the finding, anyway, of informal street interviews by John Oliver's crew at Last Week Tonight on HBO.

Oliver devoted his April 5 show to the NSA spying story. It included an exclusive interview with Snowden, who is living in Russia after the State Department canceled his passport. And it included the topic of this fact-check: Can emails sent between two people living in the United States unwittingly end up on the computer screen of some NSA analyst?

Oliver, who blends comedy with journalism, framed the discussion around the NSA peeping on nude pictures.

Oliver asked Snowden to describe the capability of various NSA surveillance programs in relation to nude pictures sent by Americans, starting with "702 surveillance." This refers to Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978. This section was added in 2008 and was renewed under President Barack Obama in 2012.

Could the NSA see a picture of, say, Oliver's privates under this provision, he asked?

"Yes," Snowden said, "the FISA Amendments Act of 2008, which Section 702 falls under, allows the bulk collection of Internet communications that are one-end foreign."

After an Oliver joke about "bulk collection," Snowden continued, "So if you have your email somewhere like Gmail, hosted on a server overseas or transferred overseas or any time crosses outside the borders of the United States, your junk ends up in the database."

Oliver jumped in and asked Snowden to clarify that the racy picture if you've seen the interview, you know we're paraphrasing wouldn't necessarily have to be sent to Germany in order to end up in NSA storage.

"No," Snowden said. "Even if you sent it to someone within the United States, your wholly domestic communication between you and your wife can go to New York to London and back and get caught up in the database."

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