Edward Snowden: There’s No One Trump Loves More Than …

Its clear Donald Trump is a huge fan of Russian President Vladimir Putin. But whistleblowerEdward Snowdensays Americans shouldnt get their hopes up that special counsel Robert Mueller is going to nail the U.S. president for colluding with the Kremlin.

Theres no one in this world that [Trump] loves more than the Russian president, said Snowden, who exposed eavesdropping by the National Security Agency five years ago and now lives in exile in Russia, a refugee from U.S. treason charges.

I think people are asking for too much when they hope that the Mueller investigation is going to come up with a smoking gun against Trump yes, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump in the hotel room with the piss tape, Snowden quipped in Fridays episode of the Deconstructed podcast at The Intercept. Thats not how the world works. Life is not that simple.

Snowden, speaking from Moscow, said he also doesnt believe Trump is the kind of crack double operator Putin would rely on.

To be honest, everyone who has heard Trump speak for three minutes knows hes a wrecking ball, he said. This does not sound like the kind of person that you would want to engage in some kind of complicated Manchurian Candidate spy operation, when the guy cant even remember what hes going to say at the end of a sentence.

That doesnt mean that he didnt want to cooperate, Snowden added. That doesnt mean he wouldnt do anything to achieve an advantage.

Snowden encouraged people including would-be leakers in the U.S. government to continue to struggle for change.

I believe that this world can be better. I believe that this world should be better. But its not going to get better unless we make it better, he said. And that requires risk. That requires hard work. That ultimately might require sacrifice.

Things change, he went on. If they can change for the worse, they can change for the better. If more good people are organizing... if were willing to draw lines that we will not allow people to cross without moving us out of the way, the pendulum will swing.

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