S
Over the past year, as the Snowden revelations have rolled out, the government and its apologists have developed a set of talking points about mass spying that the public has now heard over and over again. From the President, to Hilary Clinton to Rep. Mike Rogers, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and many others, the arguments are often eerily similar.
But as we approach the one year anniversary, it's time to call out the key claims that have been thoroughly debunked and insist that the NSA apologists retire them.
So if you hear any one of these in the future, you can tell yourself straight up: "this person isn't credible," and look elsewhere for current information about the NSA spying. And if these are still in your talking points (you know who you are) it's time to retire them if you want to remain credible. And next time, the talking points should stand the test of time.
The discredited claim: NSA defenders have thrown out many claims about how NSA surveillance has protected us from terrorists, including repeatedly declaring that it has thwarted 54 plots. Rep. Mike Rogerssays it often. Only weeks after the first Snowden leak, US President Barack Obama claimed: "We know of at least 50 threats that have been averted" because of the NSA's spy powers. Former NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander also repeatedly claimed that those programs thwarted 54 different attacks.
Others, including former Vice President Dick Cheney have claimed that had the bulk spying programs in place, the government could have stopped the 9/11 bombings, specifically noting that the government needed the program to locate Khalid al Mihdhar, a hijacker who was living in San Diego.
Why it's not credible:These claims have been thoroughly debunked. First, the claim that the information stopped 54 terrorist plots fell completely apart. In dramatic Congressional testimony, Sen. Leahy forced a formal retraction from NSA Director Alexander in October, 2013:
"Would you agree that the 54 cases that keep getting cited by the administration were not all plots, and of the 54, only 13 had some nexus to the U.S.?" Leahy said at the hearing. "Would you agree with that, yes or no?"
"Yes," Alexander replied, without elaborating.
But that didn't stop the apologists. We keep hearing the"54 plots" line to this day.
Read the original here:
The Five Dumbest Ways That People Defend NSA Spying
- Businesses Deny Helping NSA Plant Bugs in Americans' Gadgets [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- NSA Spying: Rand Paul Plans Obama Lawsuit [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- NBC's 'Nightly News' Avoids Obama in 'Serious Legal Blow' to NSA Spying - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- Through a PRISM, Darkly - Everything we know about NSA spying [30c3] - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- NSA spying HOW TO - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- NSA spying on all iPhones n computers - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- KeiserReport: NSA spying costing US economy dearly, losing sales (31Dec13) - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- 12.23.2014 - NSA Spying Could Do Good for the US | ETA News - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- Orwellian or a Blunt Tool?: Conflicting Rulings on NSA Spying Set Up Likely Supreme Court Showdown - Video [Last Updated On: January 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 5th, 2014]
- Senate to push for legislation to limit NSA spying, while lawmaker suggests Obama didn't go far enough- House panel ... [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- Yahoo CEO Challenges Obama on NSA Spying [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- 'CHILLING EFFECT': Watchdog said to push for end to NSA phone spying [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- NSA Spying | Electronic Frontier Foundation [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- Feinstein Admits 'America Is the Great Satan': Sen. Feinstein Defends NSA Spying - Video [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- Obama Fears Arrest and is Running Scared From NSA Scandal - HD - Video [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- Sen Leahy: Because of NSA spying programs gov't is controlling us instead of us controlling gov't - Video [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- Save LI Forum - 11: Krisanne Hall - the 4th Amendment - Video [Last Updated On: January 23rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 23rd, 2014]
- NSA spying is illegal – US privacy watchdog [Last Updated On: January 24th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 24th, 2014]
- Civil Liberties Board Says NSA Spying Is Illegal [Last Updated On: January 24th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 24th, 2014]
- NSA Surveillance Sparks Talk of National Internets [Last Updated On: January 24th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 24th, 2014]
- -Biden in 2006 schools Obama in 2013 over NSA spying program - Video [Last Updated On: January 24th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 24th, 2014]
- 10MIN NEWS Bravo To The UK's Stand They Don't Buy Obama's NSA Spying Promises - Video [Last Updated On: January 24th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 24th, 2014]
- Republican Party Condemns NSA Spying on Americans, After Supporting It for Years [Last Updated On: January 26th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 26th, 2014]
- United States Privacy Watchdog: NSA Spying Is Illegal - Video [Last Updated On: January 26th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 26th, 2014]
- US privacy watchdog advises NSA spying is 'illegal' - Video [Last Updated On: January 26th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 26th, 2014]
- Ben Swann: Tired of NSA Spying? Turn Off Their Water - Video [Last Updated On: January 26th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 26th, 2014]
- Feinstein Admits 'America Is the Great Satan' as She Defends NSA Spying - Video [Last Updated On: January 26th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 26th, 2014]
- NSA Spying Is Illegal According To US Privacy Watchdog - Video [Last Updated On: January 27th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 27th, 2014]
- Tyrel Ventura on DEA Drug Running, NSA Spying, and Jesse 2016 - Video [Last Updated On: January 27th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 27th, 2014]
- Justin Bieber Beats NSA Spying on MSNBC? - Video [Last Updated On: January 27th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 27th, 2014]
- Justin Beiber is more important then NSA Spying! - Video [Last Updated On: January 27th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 27th, 2014]
- Preventing spying on NSA spying [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- US looks at ways to prevent spying on NSA spying [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- Is NSA Spying on Your Angry Birds Game? [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- US looking to stop spying on NSA spying [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- NSA Spying On Apps Like 'Angry Birds,' Does Surveillance Violate Civil Liberties? [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- NSA spying through Angry Birds, Google Maps, leaked documents reportedly reveal [Last Updated On: January 28th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 28th, 2014]
- Terror suspect challenges NSA spying's constitutionality [Last Updated On: January 30th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 30th, 2014]
- NSA Spying on Apps Shows Perils of Google+, ‘Candy Crush’ [Last Updated On: January 30th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 30th, 2014]
- German government faces legal action over NSA spying [Last Updated On: January 30th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 30th, 2014]
- Not 'Appy' - new leaks show NSA spying on our apps - video - Video [Last Updated On: January 30th, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 30th, 2014]
- Tech Giants, Telcos Get OK to Release Stats on NSA Spying [Last Updated On: January 31st, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 31st, 2014]
- Obama Police State 2014 - Giuliani on NSA spying program proposals - Video [Last Updated On: January 31st, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 31st, 2014]
- Empty Promise's - Giuliani on NSA Spying Program Proposals - Video [Last Updated On: January 31st, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 31st, 2014]
- NSA surveillance revelations sour German perception of Obama [Last Updated On: January 31st, 2014] [Originally Added On: January 31st, 2014]
- President Obama On NSA Spying And PRISM - Video [Last Updated On: February 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 1st, 2014]
- Glenn Greenwald Growing Backlash Against NSA Spying Shows Why U S Wants to Silence Edward Snowden - Video [Last Updated On: February 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 1st, 2014]
- Mike Malloy speaks on Snowdens revelations of NSA spying at the 2009 Copenhagen climate talks - Video [Last Updated On: February 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 1st, 2014]
- NSA Spying on YouTube, Facebook | The Rubin Report - Video [Last Updated On: February 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 1st, 2014]
- 2014 State of the Union Response - NSA Spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 1st, 2014]
- NSA Spying: The Three Pillars of Government Trust Have ... [Last Updated On: February 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 3rd, 2014]
- Bernie Sanders Town Hall on NSA spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 3rd, 2014]
- Rand Paul Files Class Action Lawsuit over NSA Spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 3rd, 2014]
- ▶ Giuliani on NSA spying program proposals YouTube 360p - Video [Last Updated On: February 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 3rd, 2014]
- Hackers Sue German Government Over NSA Spying [Last Updated On: February 4th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 4th, 2014]
- David Cole on NSA spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 4th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 4th, 2014]
- NSA SPYING on US - Taps INTERNET Transmissions and It Will Only Get Worse - Video [Last Updated On: February 4th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 4th, 2014]
- NSA spying, TPPA and you [Last Updated On: February 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 5th, 2014]
- Environmental Groups "Shocked" by Reports of NSA Spying of U.N. Climate Talks - Video [Last Updated On: February 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 5th, 2014]
- NSA scandal boosts German tech industry [Last Updated On: February 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 5th, 2014]
- Hackers sue Merkel and entire German government over NSA spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 5th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 5th, 2014]
- NSA spying scandals continue | Dear Kitty. Some blog [Last Updated On: February 6th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 6th, 2014]
- Hackers Sue German Government Over NSA Spying - ABC News [Last Updated On: February 6th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 6th, 2014]
- NSA spying revelations 'a shock' to Patriot Act author [Last Updated On: February 6th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 6th, 2014]
- Swatch chief executive ticked off about NSA spying scandal ... [Last Updated On: February 8th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 8th, 2014]
- NSASpying.com -- Resources to STOP NSA spying [Last Updated On: February 8th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 8th, 2014]
- Hackers sue Merkel entire German govt over NSA spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 8th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 8th, 2014]
- Daily Kos: House threatens to end NSA spying [Last Updated On: February 9th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 9th, 2014]
- Impact of NSA Spying Fallout on Tech Companies - Video [Last Updated On: February 9th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 9th, 2014]
- Glenn Greenwald Snowden Encouraged by Global Outrage over NSA Spying, Support for His Plight - Video [Last Updated On: February 9th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 9th, 2014]
- Everything We Know About NSA Spying: "Through a PRISM, Darkly" - Kurt Opsahl at CCC - Video [Last Updated On: February 9th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 9th, 2014]
- NSA spying undermines separation of powers: Column [Last Updated On: February 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 10th, 2014]
- NSA spying on your calls - Video [Last Updated On: February 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 10th, 2014]
- Hundreds march in Washington against NSA spying - Video [Last Updated On: February 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 10th, 2014]
- Law professor: NSA spying threatens separation of powers [Last Updated On: February 12th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 12th, 2014]
- Top U.S. Spy Claims 'Terrorists Are Going to School' on ... [Last Updated On: February 12th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 12th, 2014]
- 'The Day We Fight Back' calls for protests against NSA spying [Last Updated On: February 12th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 12th, 2014]
- Obama and French President Hollande discuss NSA spying at ... [Last Updated On: February 12th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 12th, 2014]
- NSA spying poses “direct threat to journalism ... [Last Updated On: February 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 14th, 2014]
- Exclusive: Rand Paul says NSA spying has gone 'overboard ... [Last Updated On: February 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: February 14th, 2014]