Divided we stand
Editor:
Worried citizens are calling for national unity in the wake of the political debacle that was Election Day. A noble ideal. But, realistically, undoable. Ironically, warring leftists and patriots can unanimously agree on one thing: Blues and reds have irreconcilable differences.
Our cultural chasm is unbridgeable. A divorce is inevitable.
Now what? We could revive the old-school strategy of peaceful coexistence. It avoided an apocalyptic nuclear war back in the day. No winners or losers.
Sadly, we havent lived up to Americas unifying motto, E pluribus unum (out of many, one).
Divided we stand.
Ken Williams
Goodyear
Meet your
legislators
Editor:
Everyone is invited to come join us on Saturday, Dec. 5, at Sangria & Shopping, a community event in Buckeye between 10 a.m. and 3 p.m. It is held at the South Buckeye Equestrian Center, 10300 S. Miller Road. Take I-10 west toward LA and exit on Miller Road No. 114. Head south for about 7 miles, and if you sink into the river, you missed the big complex on your right.
Republican legislative districts LD4 and LD13 will have booths at the event for a Meet Your Legislators day, with all three LD13 legislators and our new local LD4 rep in attendance. Also attending will be local school board members, while others were invited and have yet to confirm.
This is your perfect opportunity to meet your local representatives and get answers to questions. Hope to see you there.
Richard Hopkins, Chairman
LD4 Republican Committee
Buckeye
A response
Editor:
In response to David Wilsons Nov. 26 letter: David, you say that you are listening to science and health experts. Bolognayou are listening to the anti-Trump media and censored Facebook, who have a left agenda.
To say that Trump caused the COVID-19 to rise in that community is silly and unfounded. I attended the rally because the CDC facts are there are 2 deaths per 10,000 people in the USA, and we are closing this economy because of that. Now that is silly.
I believe the country didnt overwhelmingly reject President Trump, as we see more and more evidence of voter fraud (I do wish that Trump would have selected a more dynamic VP). The courts will determine this.
Bidens strong relationships with other career politicians is the exact reason for term limits, with 47 years for Biden and 20 years for Mitch McConnell.
Ronald Reagan said, Government is not the solution to our problems. ... Government is the problem. Oh, how true that is.
Are you joking that other nations of the world have lost respect for us? They now know that we will stand for what is right and not bow to their ways or money (Iran deal and Hunter Biden to name two).
I fully and finally want Congress to work together to solve our nations problems, but Ive not seen that with the impeachment and by tearing up the State of the Union speech. Republicans can do much better by working with Democrats also. I dont expect this much from either party.
My hope is that in the future your letters to the editor would be more fair and balanced as I hope mine has been.
Scott Stewart
Goodyear
Yogi Berra Dept.
Editor:
As the noted philosopher Yogi Berra said, Its like dj vu all over again. The Nov. 18 West Valley View had three letters naming me with the usual sarcasm and name-calling but short on reality.
Lets review: In 2016, Trump said months before the election that if he lost it had to be rigged. He said he would accept the results of the voting only if he won. If he didnt win, the Second Amendment people might come to his aid. Well, he won the electoral vote by a landslide with 306 electors. On election night the major networks reported Trump had won, and he declared himself the winner that night. He lost the popular vote by 2.8 million but claimed he won that, too. When he was in office he formed a committee to investigate election fraud. After a year they found none and quietly disbanded.
In 2020, Trump again said for months that the election would be rigged and full of fraud. He still says he won despite all evidence that Biden won with 306 electors and by 5.5 million votes. Trump said the Proud Boys, a white supremacy group, should stand by. They were a notable presence at the Trump rally in Washington, D.C., recently. He and his followers say the TV networks do not decide who wins, which we all know. All federal, state and local election officials say the election was fair.
As of this writing (Nov. 19) the Trump people have filed about 20 lawsuits, none of which earned them a significant ruling. Rudy Giuliani? Please. Meanwhile, those efforts have created doubt on the legitimacy of our elections in many peoples minds. And a key factor in our democracy, a peaceful transition of power, is being threatened by this shameful charade.
One of the Nov. 18 letter writers said the Bidens were corrupt, even though a Republican Senate committee concluded there was no evidence of their corruption. He wondered how Trump could lose the vote when he had much bigger rallies during the pandemic. Really? He mocked my research citations (BBC, Politifact, the AP, FactCheck.org, etc.) without revealing his sources. He doesnt trust the top news agencies in the country, but I suspect he has great trust in far-right sources like AON and Fox and the always-credible internet for his information.
An old adage for lawyers says to pound on the law if you dont have the facts or to pound on the facts if you dont have the law. If you dont have either, then pound on the table. This is what Trump and his minions are doing now. America and democracies around the world will survive despite their attacks.
John Flynn
Goodyear
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