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The California Department of Fish and Wildlife shares a goal with the Bear League and others in the Lake Tahoe basin: decreasing the number of black bear depredation permits requested.

Still, we have always been straightforward about our legal obligations and the policies that are in place for issuing bear depredation permits.

Recently in Tahoe Vista, a black bear depredation permit was issued to a homeowner after several unsuccessful efforts to resolve the problem, and a bear was trapped and euthanized.

This outraged Bear League activists and others. We have responded to the Bear League directly regarding their reaction to this incident, including violent posts on their social media accounts about our employees. But we also want residents of Tahoe to know where we stand.

Black bear depredation permits are covered by section 4181 of the Fish and Game Code. Subdivision (a) of this section states the department, upon satisfactory evidence of the damage or destruction, actual or immediately threatened, shall issue a revocable permit for the taking and disposition of the animals under regulations adopted by the commission.

Subdivision (b) requires these permits to state why issuance of the permit was necessary, what efforts were made to solve the problem without killing the bear, and what corrective actions should be implemented to prevent reoccurrence. The Fish and Game Commission has established additional requirements for depredation permits via regulation. (See California Code of Regulations, Title 14, section 401.)

State law clearly defines the criteria for the department to issue a depredation permit for bear. In addition, the departments Black Bear Depredation Policy further solidifies our response to black bear depredation issues. In all depredation permits issued by CDFW, we work with the person who requests the permit to ensure that issuance of the depredation permit meets all state laws and policies on the matter.

The key to decreased requests for black bear depredation permits lies in educating the human residents and visitors to the basin. CDFW has a long-running campaign called Keep Me Wild, the purpose of which is to educate anyone in bear country to eliminate bear attractants.

This means bear proofing garbage cans, properly cleaning barbecues, disposing of dropped fruit from trees, never leaving trash, groceries or pet food in vehicles and this is our responsibility, as humans, to the ecosystem, to the basin, and to ensure that bears can continue to live and thrive in their natural habitat.

More Tahoe residents support the states policy and CDFWs response to depredation issues than not. We are obligated to uphold the law. In fact, 13 depredation permits were issued in the basin this year about half of which ended with euthanasia. However, the Bear Leagues fearmongering tactics and demonstrated history of targeted personal attacks has residents frightened to seek out depredation permits.

After this most recent event, depredation permits previously approved were surrendered because the residents determined they were more afraid of backlash from the Bear League than they were troubled by damage to property, or themselves from a bear.

Still, as with all department policies, the Black Bear Depredation Policy is undergoing review and we anticipate completion of that review mid-2020. While we believe our policy is strong, regularly reviewing and updating it is good government.

As in the past, CDFW will continue to engage, at every opportunity, with multiple stakeholders in the Tahoe area. Its important that these are cooperative working relationships. There are many local agencies aligning interests to coordinate policy and law to manage human-bear encounters.

We hope to achieve regionwide compliance with local ordinances on trash and other policies and procedures that will reduce human-bear encounters. We need to find steps toward resolution to address this growing problem and will encourage our staff many of whom have spent their lives studying bears and work to protect them daily to participate with constructive, positive efforts. Because its by working together that we can promote bear awareness and help reduce such conflicts in the Lake Tahoe Basin.

Charlton H. Bonham is the Director of the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

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Sixty-three percent of Irish people would favor euthanasia in certain circumstances.Getty

A recent Amrach polling company poll of the Irish revealed that 63 percent of Irish people would favor euthanasia in certain circumstances.

That is about the same majority as favored abortion rights and same-sex marriage when both were approved, making it quite likely that assisted suicide will be the next great cultural, moral and political battle in Ireland.

Six countries and six states in America allow euthanasia or assisted suicide and New Zealand last month introduced an End of Life bill which will be the subject of a referendum there in 2020, at the same time as their parliamentary election.

In Ireland, the champion of the discussion on the issue is Vicky Phelan, the heroic woman who exposed the cervical cancer scandal, where inaccurate results were given to many women who believed they had the all-clear but who subsequently discovered they had cancer. Some of these women have since died of their illness.

Read more: Euthanasia for elderly and disabled next says bishop, if Ireland passes abortion vote

Vicky Phelan. Image: RollingNews.ie.

Phelan was one of them but has survived due to a new drug that is holding the disease at bay. No one knows for how long, however.

Speaking to the Irish Independent, she said, "I would be pro-euthanasia, definitely. I would hate to be in a position where I was in a lot of pain, or lingering, as can happen a lot, that people are waiting four or five days for somebody to die. It's terrible for the patient. It's terrible for the family having to sit and watch their loved one dying in pain. It's not a nice sight to see people when they are dying."

When the issue becomes center stage, as it inevitably will, the 2013 case where MS sufferer Marie Fleming failed in her Supreme Court bid to die will no doubt be discussed. The courts decision to deny Fleming the right to die in a matter of her own choosing will be seen as a landmark.

Marie Fleming. Image: RollingNews.ie.

There was tremendous sympathy for Fleming and her partner Tom Curran, who were in a terrible bind because of the pain she was in. She has since passed away.

In another case in 2015, a Dublin woman, Gail O'Rorke, was found not guilty of helping her friend Bernadette Forde die.

Forde died in 2011 after taking a daily dose of barbiturates ordered by ORorke from Mexico. She had been suffering from multiple sclerosis for a decade

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Gail O'Rorke. Image: RollingNews.ie.

Current Irish law, as pointed out by journalist Ian Doherty, makes it a criminal offense to even travel with someone to a euthanasia clinic, the best known of which is the Dignitas Clinic in Switzerland.

Vickie Phelan says she may eventually face that kind of test and the awful dilemma of telling your family members knowing they risk arrest if coming back home from being present at the death.

The debate is a very old onea belief there is validity in suffering against a view that unnecessary pain is plain cruelty. Most Irish, according to the new poll, believe being alive and being in mortal pain is completely unnecessary if the person has made their opinion clear.

Anyone who has seen close relatives die with their bodies racked with pain knows there is no dignity whatever in prolonging life in such circumstances.

Hospices are a wonderful invention and have helped millions around the world die peacefully but at the end of the day, they reach only a fraction of the population.

There are huge caveats, especially regarding those disabled and seriously ill who may be pressured to agree to die. Likewise, people with deep depression, who have no technical physical ailment must be protected.

But the times they are a-changing. Twenty years ago, it seemed impossible that same-sex marriage and legalized abortion would be voted for overwhelmingly in Ireland but both happened.

Within a few years, however, Ireland could well be in the midst of a major debate on the right to die with dignity. It seems a debate well worth having not just in Ireland but everywhere.

Sixty-three percent of Irish people would favor euthanasia in certain circumstances.Getty

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The Right to Die is the next big Irish issue - IrishCentral

Updated December 04, 2019 09:58:40

Western Australia's bid to become the second Australian state to legalise voluntary euthanasia has hit its most crucial juncture, with MPs facing two all-night sittings this week in a bid to get to a final vote on the contentious legislation.

Upper House MPs have been warned to expect to sit from lunchtime today until well into Thursday as the McGowan Government makes a last-ditch bid to reach a vote on the voluntary assisted dying (VAD) bill before the Christmas recess.

There are plans for another all-night sitting on Friday, with a week of marathon sessions set to add significantly to the more than 150 hours State Parliament has spent on the bill so far.

The Government has been frustrated by the extremely slow pace of debate in Parliament so far, blaming Liberal MP and staunch opponent of the bill Nick Goiran for what they have labelled needless filibustering.

When the bill does get to a final vote it is expected to pass, having been overwhelmingly backed in the Lower House and then passing the first stage of debate in the Legislative Council 25-11.

That means eight Upper House MPs who previously voted for the legislation would have to change their mind for it to be blocked.

But the pace of debate during line-by-line consideration has become a serious concern for the Government, with it already having taken 60 hours to get through the first 60 clauses of the bill, with another 124 to go.

Premier Mark McGowan has pleaded with the Upper House to get to a final vote by the end of the week.

"This has been a long road and hopefully the light is at the end of the tunnel," he said.

"I urge the Upper House to deal with the issue this week and respect the wishes of the people of Western Australia."

The proposed WA voluntary euthanasia scheme would allow terminally ill West Australian adults who are likely to die within six months to legally access a lethal drug to end their life.

The bill has been significantly amended in the Upper House, something the Government had previously fought against, but Mr McGowan downplayed concerns about changes to the legislation.

"I didn't personally think they [the changes] were necessary but I think they are reasonable to get the bill through," he said.

If the Upper House passes the bill this week, the Lower House would need to be recalled next week to agree to any amendments.

It would then be around 18 months before patients would be able to access the scheme.

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First posted December 04, 2019 08:47:37

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Final WA euthanasia push as voluntary assisted dying bill sparks two all-night parliament sessions - ABC News

Western secular culture is a kind of hothouse growth, Christopher Dawson wrotean artificial culture that shelters us from the direct impact of reality. Neither birth nor death in secular societies occasions confrontation with ultimate realities. Rather, each brings us into closer dependence on the state and its bureaucracy so that every human need can be met by filling in the appropriate form. Evelyn Waughs Love Among the Ruins: A Romance of the Near Future dramatizes this sheltering. In this novella, junior sub-official Miles Plastic does clerical work for the Department of Euthanasia in a dystopian state. Plastic, whose surname epitomizes artificiality and malleability, ensures that those in line for a happy death do not press ahead of their turn, and adjusts the television set for their amusement. Although a faint whiff of cyanide sometimes gave a hint of the mysteries beyond, Plastic is content to empty the waste basket and brew tea for the patients.

Because the services offered by the Department of Euthanasia are essential, Plastic has no feast on Santa Claus Day (December 25). After work he walks to the hospital to visit his lover Clara, who is with child, and finds the hall porter . . . engrossed in the television, which was performing an old obscure folk play which past generations had performed on Santa Claus Day, and was now revived and revised as a matter of historical interest. The porters interest, Plastic supposes, is professional, for the show dealt with maternity services before the days of Welfare. The porter cannot look away from the strange spectacle of an ox and an ass, an old man with a lantern, and a young mother. People here are always complaining, the porter says. They ought to realize what things were like before Progress.

The Nativity, the great fact of christology (Christ descended and passed through utter poverty in order to redeem) ghosts through the television screen. However, these hothouse inhabitants are haunted not by the mystery of Christs humility, but by Mary and Josephs woeful lack of medical conveniences. In the world of the novella, the Story of Christ has been shrunken and sanitized into a museum-like documentary. As Dawson wrote, a completely secularized culture is a world of make believe in which the figures of the cinema and the cartoon-strip appear more real than the figures of the Gospel.

Plastic moves through the hospitals bowels until he finds his beloved in a ward marked Experimental Surgery. There, he inquires after our childbut Clara tells him: that had to go (italics mine). She then says that Santa Claus Day marks the nativity of her new face; her former one, ruined with facial hair, has been replaced by a wonderful new substance, a sort of synthetic rubber that takes grease-paint perfectly. Claras plasticity is more real to her than the child (the that) which has been eliminated by a simple, state-proffered operation. Like a mother who has just given birth, she sits up in bed, joyful and proud, but Plastic cannot countenance the tight, slippery mask, which he experiences as quite inhuman. Instead, he stares at the bedside TV, where further characters had appeared in the obscure folk play: Food Production Workers apparently declare a sudden strike, for they leave their sheep in a frenzy at the bidding of some kind of shop-steward in fantastic dress, accompanied by an old, forgotten ditty: O tidings of comfort and joy.

Through Waughs artfulness, the Nativity has been made strange in Love Among the Ruins. The Russian formalist Viktor Shklovsky contended that the purpose of art is to lead us to a knowledge of a thing through the organ of sight instead of recognition. By enstranging objects and complicating form, the device of art makes perception long and laborious. Although the twenty-first-century West does not yet evince the extreme secularity of the dystopian society in Love Among the Ruins, Waugh helps us perceive how our own world, too, is unreal, and how in our day, too, the God who is Love has been relegated to the category of historical and cultural preservation. Waugh pairs Claras plastic joy with the tidings of comfort that break from the machine beside her. This juxtaposition brings Plastic to retch unobtrusively before he exits the surgery ward, baffled.

Waughs novella incubates us in a world that has abandoned God. Though the TV light extracts grace from the Christmas Story, Plastic and the porter watch with rare attention. They are arrested by the foreignness of Gods Incarnation, though they cannot put the fragmented pieces of the Story together. T. S. Eliot captures the disruptiveness of Christs coming in his poem Journey of the Magi. The narrator, one of the three kings, wonders whether he was led all that way for / Birth or Death?

Although he daily helps hasten the happy terminations of unwanted lives, Miles Plastic has been kept conveniently away from the mysteries beyond the door. His first real encounter with death comes through the surgical slaughter of his child. And it makes him miserable. Holy Mother State has anesthetized his consciousness against the pains of reality, but the death of our child on Christs birthday makes him long for another death. By the end of the novella, he has forged a desert in his imagination which he might call peace, a poor surrogate for the Prince of Peace. It's a desert that leaves him, like the Magi, ill at ease.

We inhabit a hothouse in many ways akin to that of Miles Plastic. Who among us can exit the hothouse and enter the enduring chill where the soul encounters the bitter agony and sublimity of Christ's birth? Who among us can craft a crche that will soil our artificiality with the ultimate reality? Who can arrest us until our unease passes into peace, until we dare call the Makers cave-set maternity wardlike his death on Fridaygood?

Joshua Hrenis Assistant Director of the Honors College atBelmontAbbey College and author ofThis Our Exile: Short Stories.

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That phrase tends to be associated with politicians paying tribute to other politicians (or, in Charles Haughey's case, paying tribute to himself), but there can be no doubt that Vicky Phelan has indeed done her State some service.

Her honourable refusal to take a cheque and sign a gagging order exposed the State CervicalCheck scandal, which led to scores of other cases being discovered and forced an apology from the Taoiseach in the Dil.

That, in itself, is more than any of us will ever achieve in our lifetime but following her comments in a newspaper interview on Sunday, she may well have performed yet another service for her country.

Discussing her life expectancy, and how her hopes for another five years may be in vain, she opened up about her views on euthanasia. As the reluctant campaigner put it: "I would be pro-euthanasia, definitely. I would hate to be in a position where I was in a lot of pain, or lingering, as can happen a lot, that people are waiting four or five days for somebody to die. It's terrible for the patient. It's terrible for the family having to sit and watch their loved one dying in pain. It's not a nice sight to see people when they are dying."

Irish society has come a long way in the last decade. The will of the people was overwhelming in their vote supporting both gay marriage and repealing the Eighth Amendment, yet when it comes to the one issue which will affect us all - the manner of our death - the topic of euthanasia remains one of the last great taboos in polite society.

For many Irish people, the issue of euthanasia was really brought home in 2013 when MS sufferer Marie Fleming took an unsuccessful Supreme Court action to allow her to die in a manner of her own choosing, without worrying if her partner, Tom Curran, would face subsequent prosecution for assisting her.

Similarly, Dublin woman Gail O'Rorke was prosecuted for, although ultimately found not guilty, of helping a friend die.

As the law stands, not only is it illegal to assist someone dying in this jurisdiction, even travelling with someone to somewhere such as the Dignitas clinic in Switzerland is also a criminal offence.

That is the dilemma which Ms Phelan will eventually face, and it's one which is confronted by many Irish citizens on a daily basis.

When she said that "if you tell family members and you bring them with you, are they going to be prosecuted when they come back to Ireland for assisting you?", she was acknowledging that the State has a history of impeding and prosecuting those who help a loved one travel to end their suffering.

Whether we like it or not, euthanasia is going to be the next cultural battleground in this country. We have an ageing population and modern medicine can now keep people alive for far longer than ever before.

But being kept alive isn't the same as living and there is something almost monstrously cruel about forcing someone whose body has become their greatest enemy to endure a final few months or even years of undignified agony and fear.

Contrary to traditional teachings, there is no dignity in suffering, and anyone who has ever watched a loved one slowly shrivel as their body is ravaged by disease and racked with pain will be forgiven for feeling scorn towards those who say there is.

That is not to underplay the incredible work done in Irish hospices - the often forgotten arm of the health service. Staff in these establishments do genuinely humbling work for a pittance. As someone who has spent time in three different hospices with loved ones over the last few years, it was impossible not to be struck by the professionalism and, most importantly, the kindness of the staff.

They are truly inspirational people who are owed a debt of gratitude that can never be repaid.

John Halligan has been fighting a lonely battle in his efforts to get appropriate legislation framed on the issue.

His Private Members Bill fell with the last Dil in 2016, but he remains hopeful that it will be heard in the next Dil. It will be interesting to see how much progress he makes on the issue because politicians tend to run a mile from such a thorny topic - a luxury denied to those who are in pain today.

Currently, euthanasia and assisted suicide are legal in six countries and six states in America. Last month, politicians in New Zealand voted to adopt the End Of Life Choice Bill, which will now go to a referendum in 2020, to be held at the same time as their general election. The tide is turning.

There are two main arguments against euthanasia: one is religious and the other practical. The religious argument is easy to dismiss if you are not actually religious; after all, everyone must choose their own path and nobody is suggesting that loosening the euthanasia laws will make it mandatory.

But many of the most vociferous anti-euthanasia campaigners are disabled people worried that they will come under pressure to die. That may not be the case, but it would be wrong for pro-euthanasia advocates to simply dismiss their fears.

It is also true that there have been numerous cases in recent years which have stretched the concept to near-breaking point. The choice of deaf Belgian twins, Eddie and Marc Verbessem (45), to be euthanised when they started to go blind raised many uncomfortable questions, particularly as their family pleaded with them to change their minds.

Numerous prisoners serving life sentences with no possibility of parole in Belgium, and indeed Australia, have petitioned the courts to be euthanised on the grounds that serving the rest of their days behind bars is a form of 'unendurable torture'.

None of those cases has been successful so far but we should all be worried about ushering in the death penalty by any other name.

Similarly, the Dutch model, which takes severe depression into account, is another area of concern for even the most ardent right-to-die supporters.

But nobody should expect such a profound issue to be easy and, not for the first time in this country, it seems the people are ahead of the politicians.

The most recent Amarach poll saw 63pc of the population in favour of euthanasia - remarkably close to the 64.5pc who voted for abortion.

This issue is, in many ways, the last great civil rights battle in this country - it's one which a growing number of citizens will face.

It's also an issue which won't go away and our demographic pattern will ensure that the longer it's kicked down the road, the bigger a problem it will become.

We didn't listen to Marie Fleming and her impassioned pleas for some dignity.

Maybe we'll listen to Vicky Phelan.

Irish Independent

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Ian O'Doherty: 'Euthanasia will be next big cultural battleground - and it's time we faced that uncomfortable reality' - Independent.ie

Posted December 01, 2019 09:07:19

In decades past, South Australia built a reputation as a leader on social reform.

It was the first state to give women the right to vote and stand for parliament, and under the leadership of Don Dunstan, was the first to decriminalise homosexual acts.

Some of the most public campaigns in recent times are for law change on a trio of thorny issues: the decriminalisation of sex work, abortion law reform, and voluntary euthanasia.

In an interesting turn of events, campaigners were hoping the election of a moderate Liberal State Government last year would help their cause, after years of failed attempts under the former Labor government.

On sex work, advocates got further than ever this year, at least until last fortnight when it was defeated in Parliament.

The Lower House which had never considered the issue before rejected the bill at the first opportunity.

Premier Steven Marshall had thrown his support behind the bill, saying it was an issue some other states had dealt with "decades and decades ago".

Deputy Premier and Attorney-General Vickie Chapman described the result of the vote as "disappointing".

"I feel for those sex workers in our community who will still be treated as second-class citizens, and will still be able to be prosecuted for their work," she said.

"With the failing of this bill, sex workers are now still left in a position where their safety is at risk."

But there were conservative Liberals who had a different view.

Liberal MLC Dennis Hood strongly opposed the bill.

"The left always seems to go for the most radical form of legislation that they possibly can," Mr Hood said.

"[It] was just beyond what I think most reasonable members would consider desirable for their electorates."

A group of socially progressive MPs across parties have been working together to advance all three social issues, and the sex work reform result threw up questions about whether abortion and euthanasia were also on shaky ground.

Next month, the state's Attorney-General Vickie Chapman will present a proposal for the full decriminalisation of abortion, and a parliamentary committee is currently looking at the issue of voluntary euthanasia.

Both issues are set to come before Parliament as a conscience vote, where MPs will not be bound to their party's position.

Advocates had expected the sex work vote to be close.

Several sources have told the ABC that at least one MP indicated support and then voted the other way.

SA Greens MLC Tammy Franks first introduced this year's bill to Parliament, and said Lower House MPs had a "much shallower level of understanding of the debate", because they had not been through the same extended parliamentary committee process as the Upper House.

She said other barriers were objections raised by councils and SA Police, the latter called for protections to prevent organised crime moving into the sex industry.

"We saw what is being called an unprecedented entry into the public sphere by the Police Commissioner Grant Stevens," Ms Franks said.

The staunchest opponents of the sex work bill could well oppose changes to abortion and euthanasia laws.

However, one member of Labor's left faction told the ABC it was unlikely that all MPs would split along the same lines.

They said they thought abortion law reform would have an easier path through Parliament, but feared euthanasia would be less likely to succeed than they had initially thought.

The vast majority of Labor's right faction, including Opposition Leader Peter Malinauskas, voted against the sex work bill.

But it is unclear whether those MPs will view abortion and euthanasia bills as less extreme than the proposed model to decriminalise sex work.

Dennis Hood said it would come down to the specifics of any legislation.

"There is some reform in the legalisation of prostitution that even a fairly solid conservative like myself would look at and consider," he said.

"I don't think these things are set in stone except for the hard left, they'll always I think support social change."

Tammy Franks said the parliamentary battle over sex work was always going to be the hardest to win, and some MPs told her they didn't want to expend political capital on that issue.

"There were people who said 'Oh, look, I can't vote for sex work because I'm voting for abortion'," she said.

"Quite a few people are in that camp."

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Debate has emerged as to whether euthanasia has a place in te ao Mori, with some saying it doesn't sit with the Mori worldview of death, and others saying whnau should have the choice.

A Taranaki urup. Photo: RNZ / Robin Martin

The End of Life Choice Bill, which would allow people to end their lives if they have six months or less before they die, passed its third reading last week, with the public set to vote at a referendum next year.

Maata Wharehoka, from Parihaka, has been reviving traditional methods of death and burial, with her whnau-run business, Kahu Whakatere Tppaku.

She said that based on the knowledge of her whnau, there was a form of euthanasia in pre-colonial Mori society, which involved speeding up death for people who had become wholly dependent on others for their needs.

"They didn't have food and water, and they were put outside and regardless of the weather, that's where they were placed, now, what I do know, if they didn't die immediately they were then put out into wharemate, and the wharemate was built for them to die in."

She supports legalisation of euthanasia because it would help the wairua of the person dying, leave the world faster with less pain and suffering.

"I believe that we should never have to endure the pain that some people have to go through, that we should be able to choose a time to pass over."

Ngti Porou anglican priest, Reverend Chris Huriwai, who opposed the bill, said euthanasia went against the Mori worldview on death.

"When I hear conversations and krero around euthanasia, straight away my mind flicks to how we as Mori frame our tangihanga rituals, how we understand death, and fundamentally this idea of death as something that is unwanted, something that is an aitua or an accident or something unfortunate, and I wonder how that impacts on our tikanga when we start to express more agency in that space.

"So if a whnau or a person elects for that to take place, then how do we reconcile that with our acceptable practice and tikanga around tangihanga as it stands now."

The End of Life Choice Bill passed its third in Parliament last week and puts the issue to a referendum next year. Photo: RNZ / Dom Thomas

He said that from what he had learned from the tohunga Papa Amster Reedy, euthanasia was foreign to the tikanga of Tairwhiti, but he said this might not necessarily be the case for Mori across the country.

"I think it's important we don't just call it all tikanga Mori, because tikanga Mori doesn't exist."

"We're diverse, we're fluid, we're not a homogenous group of people, so those conversations need to happen on levels smaller than tribal levels, so hap conversations need to happen and whnau conversations need to happen around what our accepted tikanga is."

Dame Iritana Twhiwhirangi agreed there was no one tikanga, and she supported the right for whnau to make a decision for themselves.

"Our people, from what I remember, made the decision together. They didn't rely on outside determinations for them and together that was their tikanga, that's what they focused on, they made their decisions and I support that."

New Zealand Nurses Organisation kaiwhakahaere Kerri Nuku said Mori nurses were polarised on the issue, but agree that it should be up to whnau Mori.

Mori nurses were looking to set up hui at different marae after Christmas, where Mori could discuss what legalisation of euthanasia would mean for them and their whnau, similar to consultation that occured around changes to the Coronial Act.

Whangarei MP Shane Reti said during the third reading debate that he opposed the bill, both as as a doctor and a Mori.

Tmaki Makaurau MP Peeni Henare supported the bill Photo: RNZ / Richard Tindiller

He singled out many of the Mori Labour MPs who supported the bill, asking them what their "Mori heart' was saying.

Tmaki Makaurau MP Peeni Henare responded by saying that historically, Mori had ways of speeding up the process of death if a disease or sickness was incurable.

He said that to him, tikanga is mana motuhake - Mori being to make the decision which is right for them.

MP for Te Tai Hauuru Adrian Rurawhe said that the overwhelming majority of people in his electorate told him at eight public hui they did not want this bill.

"We talk about kaupapa Mori, terms that just roll of our tongue - manaakitanga, rangatiratanga, aroha - it even frames our international identity but will it frame what we want for our families in this bill, I say it will not, because it is fundamentally opposed to those kaupapa."

List MP Willie Jackson told Parliament that three high-profile Mori leaders, he had spoken with said "they were tired of hearing this was a violation of our culture".

"All were unanimous that in their view tikanga evolves, tikanga changes and there is no one tikanga," he said.

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Is there tikanga around euthanasia? - RNZ

For the first time a majority of the Dutch population supports the idea of euthanasia for those who say theyre tired of life although they remain physically healthy, a survey shows.

In 2002 the Netherlands became the first country in the world to legalise euthanasia as a form of painless escape for terminally ill patients with the emphasis on those experiencing hopeless and unbearable suffering.

The procedure remains tightly controlled. Two doctors are required to agree independently in each case that the legal conditions have been met. However, theres a growing debate about whether or not availability should be broadened to include those who feel their lives are at an end.

As a result, controversial new legislation is to be tabled in parliament by the centre-left party D66 early next year that would make euthanasia available to citizens over 75 who believe their lives are complete and who wish to have control over how and when they end.

The new representative survey by the national statistics agency will be good news for D66 because it shows clearly for the first time that public attitudes to euthanasia are changing, and that that change is very much in line with the partys proposed new guidelines.

They survey shows the same overwhelming support for euthanasia as before, with 87 per cent of the population favouring its availability in certain controlled circumstances, 8 per cent opposed to it in all circumstances and 5 per cent with no opinion.

In religious terms, the greatest support for the procedure at 98 per cent comes from those who describe themselves as non-religious, with the greatest opposition from Muslims and orthodox Protestants.

However, within those broad parameters theres been an important shift, with 55 per cent of those surveyed now of the view that euthanasia should be available in cases where people feel tired of life while being in good physical health. Thirty-two per cent remain opposed to this.

As regards other specific hard case situations, 80 per cent agreed with its provision in cases of advanced dementia where the wish had been made known in advance.

Seventy-five per cent were in favour for terminally ill children and people with severe mental disorders.

The lower age limit for assisted suicide is currently 12, and while a third of respondents said they believed the age should be lowered to include younger children in distress, roughly half said they felt age should play no role in the decision at all.

The survey confirms that although it remains controversial and some cases become high profile, euthanasia is still used infrequently. There were 6,126 deaths by euthanasia in 2018, amounting to 4 per cent of the people who died in the Netherlands last year.

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Right to euthanasia for people tired of life supported by most Dutch - The Irish Times

The approval of the principle "right to die" is dangerously trending up.

In August, New Jersey became the seventh state to legalize assisted suicide. Euthanasia is now responsible for 4.5% of deaths in the Netherlands, with many of those including people who werent terminally ill.

These are old people who may have health problems, but none of them are life-threatening, bioethicist Scott Kim told CBS. They're old, they can't get around, their friends are dead and their children don't visit anymore. This kind of trend cries out for a discussion. Do we think their lives are still worthwhile?"

Assisted suicide is often conflated with euthanasia, which has different motives, but with the same results. Assisted suicide is usually defined as helping a person end their life. Euthanasia is essentially a nicer sounding version of assisted suicide. Amazingly, euthanasia has 73% of American support in a 2017 Gallup poll. This is downright horrifying.

Assisted suicide and euthanasia in bare-bone terms, is the practice of helping people kill themselves. The principle in favor of assisted suicide and euthanasia is known as right to die, that one is entitled to end their life.

Objectively, if one wants to deny themselves life sustaining treatment, I feel that is understandable. We didnt have these life sustaining devices until recently. Denying themselves life sustaining treatment is just letting life go through its intended course. The National Health Service distinguishes this from euthanasia. The BBC says The NHS says withdrawing life-sustaining treatment can be part of good palliative care and should not be confused with euthanasia.

But to me, you arent ending your life; youre letting life carry itself on which is very different from euthanasia or assisted suicide.

I have much sorrow for those who are terminally ill. However, that doesnt mean you should end your life.

Does one have the right to die? Well philosophically speaking, no. If you believe that people have the right to be born, then yes, one has the right to die. You have to be born to die. But since most believe the right to choose outweighs that, then the right to die isnt a philosophically consistent one.

People often forget how the practices of the right to die, euthanasia and assisted suicide are seen in the eyes of the society: murder. In the majority of states, the preservation of life is considered the biggest priority.

In terms of law, the Supreme Court has ruled that from FindLaw, the government's interest in preserving life and preventing intentional killing outweighed the patient's interest in the liberty to choose to die, regardless of the patient's condition.

Supreme Court Justise Neil Gorsuch once said, Once we open the door to excusing or justifying the intentional taking of life as 'necessary,' we introduce the real possibility that the lives of some persons (very possibly the weakest and most vulnerable among us) may be deemed less 'valuable,' and receive less protection from the law, than others."

The right to die forgets how special life really is.

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As the voluntary assisted dying debate slowed to a pace too sluggish to even describe as a crawl this week, some Liberal MPs could only look on in helpless frustration.

"It'll be a really bad look on us now if this doesn't go through by Christmas," one said.

"Up until now I thought we had handled the VAD issue well," said another. "This could ruin all of that."

The pace of progress of a Government bill in Parliament would typically be little to no concern for the Opposition.

But the Government's bill, to legalise voluntary euthanasia for terminally ill patients, has proven to be anything but typical.

Now, some Liberals are worried they have taken ownership of an issue over which they have precious little control.

Opposition Leader Liza Harvey sought to assure both the public and Government this week that the bill would pass before the festive season, despite what have been criticised as stalling tactics of her Liberal colleague Nick Goiran.

"I spoke to Nick last week and made it quite clear that I and the WA community expect this legislation to be passed by the end of this parliamentary sitting," Ms Harvey told The Sunday Times last week.

On the evidence of this week, it would be a brave leader to offer any such guarantees.

MPs in the Upper House are now debating the bill line by line, a painstaking process at the best of times but all the more drawn out for an issue as divisive as this one.

The Voluntary Assisted Dying (VAD) bill has 184 clauses, but after more than 36 hours of debate just 13 of those have been passed.

At the current rate of progress, it would take 516 hours to get through the whole bill.

No one expects it to actually take that long or anywhere even close to that but the fact that each clause is taking nearly three hours on average demonstrates how prolonged the process has been.

And it has cast serious doubt about whether the Christmas timeframe the Liberal leadership has agreed to can realistically be met.

Just two weeks remain until the Upper House is due to rise for the year, with 15 additional hours of debate added for next week alone.

Extra sitting weeks remain a possibility, as do all-nighters.

The Government blames Mr Goiran, an Upper House Liberal MP and perhaps the bill's highest-profile opponent.

It accuses him of "disgraceful" and "undemocratic" conduct in moving hundreds of amendments and asking "repetitive" and "filibustering" questions about the bill.

But key Liberals have strongly defended Mr Goiran.

"We are talking about life and death," Upper House Liberal leader Peter Collier said.

"We have got to give this legislation the respect it deserves. It richly deserves forensic scrutiny."

Mr Goiran's conduct has clearly put plenty of noses out of joint, including those of assisted dying supporters and the broader community.

But for many Liberals the concern is less about Mr Goiran and more about the position in which they now find themselves.

Several MPs are deeply frustrated by Ms Harvey's assurances the bill would pass by Christmas.

They view the deadline as something invented by the Government for its own political purpose and are confused about why Ms Harvey went along with it.

They are also concerned Ms Harvey has little control over Mr Goiran who wields enormous power within the Liberal Party and is motivated by staunch beliefs and even less over the rest of the Upper House.

The fear is Ms Harvey has boxed herself into a position where the Liberals will be blamed if the bill is not passed by Christmas, and that such a failure would indicate a lack of control over her own party.

"It was a real f*** up," one senior Liberal said.

"We should never have yielded to the Premier's deadline."

Supporters and the Government have long argued that the bill needs to pass by Christmas to bring sick West Australians closer to having a choice to end their suffering.

But there will also be Liberals hoping for a final vote before the year ends, to avoid what they fear would be a major political problem.

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