Liberal, Conservative governments were made aware of concerns and allegations against Vance: sources – CBC.ca

Informal allegations and "spectres of concern" about potential inappropriate conduct by the country's former top military commander were, at various times, placed before the Liberal government, as well as the former Conservative government, which selected Gen. Jonathan Vance, CBC News has learned.

At one point, a bitter dispute over what to do about one of those allegationsled to the sudden resignation and retirement of the country's former military ombudsman almost three years ago, say multiple defence sources, as well as political and government insiders.

The sources spoke to CBC News on the condition they not be named because of the sensitive nature of some of the discussion or because they were not authorizedto speak publicly about the matters.

Almost six years ago, as the thenConservative government weighed his appointment as the chief of the defence staff, Vance was asked by officialsin Prime Minister Stephen Harper'sofficeaboutconcerns that the top general had an inappropriate relationship with a femaleU.S. officer in Italy, a subordinatewho later became his wife.

The concerns were, at the time, investigated by both the Canadian and U.S. militaries. The sources said the Canadian military cleared the relationship. There is no indication of what position the Pentagon took.

Vance retired as defence chief two weeks ago.

Earlier this week, Global News published and broadcast a story alleging Vancehad an inappropriate relationship with a female subordinate, one that included private meetings and allegedly sexually explicit texts.

Responding to the initial Global story, Vance acknowledged knowing the woman, said they dated in 2001 and that it was not inappropriate because they were in different chains of command and that the meetings, more recently when he was CDS, were strictly professional.

The concerns about Vance in 2015came to the PMO through political channels, said sources with knowledge of the selection process.

Vance had already been interviewed for the top job, the sources said, but was asked about an alleged relationship with a female of junior rank. One source said it also came up in conversation with Harper's chief of staff Ray Novak.

The sources also said Vancedenied the relationshipwas inappropriate because the woman in question was not within his chain of command at the time they were together.

Global News also reported on a second, separate allegation, claiming that in 2012 whilea major general, before becoming defence chief, Vance sent an inappropriate email to another female subordinate.

Vance declined comment to CBC News.

The Liberal government became aware of concerns through a more formal channel.

Multiple sources tell CBC News a woman, serving in the reserves, approached the ombudsman's office for the Canadian Forcesin early 2018, delivering a sealed envelope that allegedly contained harassing emails from "a very senior member of the command team."

The woman emphasized she didn't want to file an official complaint.

Under Operation Honour, the military's campaign to stamp out sexual misconduct in the ranks, the ombudsman could only act as a conduit to the Military Sexual Misconduct Response Centre. The ombudsman's office, at the time, collectedcomplaints to forward on and limited itself to advising potential victims on their options.

On March 1, 2018, thenmilitary ombudsman Gary Walbourne met with Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan, where multiple sources say he raised the informal allegation.

It is unclear what transpired during the private meeting, but after Walbourne left, the sources told CBC NewsSajjan spoke with senior officials.

A senior government source acknowledged Thursday that "a spectre of concern related to the former chief of the defence staff was raised at the meeting," but the minister insisted the issue be directed to the "proper authorities" for investigation, which included the Privy Council Office.

In a statement late Thursday, Sajjandefended the way he handled the situation.

"When allegations of sexual misconduct are brought to my attention, I have always taken them seriously," he said.

"I want to assure Canadians that I have always ensured that any allegations that are brought to my attention have been reported to the appropriate authorities so they can begin any and all investigations that might be warranted, regardless of rank or position. My office has also worked with all relevant offices and followed all appropriate processes in pursuing issues related to workplace harassment whenever allegations have arisen."

Sajjan gave a similar reply when asked about Vance today in the House.

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Late Thursday, in a statement, the Privy Council Office, which supports the prime minister's office, released a statement saying it makes sure theprocesses for investigating complaints are properly followed.

And when it came to the informal allegations raised against Vance two years ago, "no information was provided to PCO which would have enabled further action to have been taken," said Paul Duchesne, the PCO's director of media affairs.

Documents obtained under access to information show the day after the meeting with Sajjan, Walbourne tendered his resignation and announced to the minister he was leaving his job before the expiration of his mandate. The letter was presented to Sajjan two weeks later.

Walbourne left his job in late 2018 and has now been replaced by Gregory Lick.

In the fall of 2019,Walbourne told CBC News he was driven from office by a political vendetta, which involved a closed-door, wide-ranging review of complaints against him of mismanagement, nepotism and misuse of public funds.

Throughout the ordeal, the former ombudsman denied the allegations and saidin an interview with CBC News, that there was an attempt to "silence" him.

The defence department is planning to conduct an investigation into the allegations against Vance.

On Thursday, the department stated that the Canadian Forces National Investigation Service had opened a file and interviewed one of the alleged complainants.

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