Meghan McCain and Joy Behar argue over whether antifa ‘does exist’ | TheHill – The Hill

Joy BeharJosephine (Joy) Victoria BeharGoya CEO calls Trump 'legitimate president,' triggering new calls for boycott Joy Behar clashes with Michael Cohen: 'I can sleep at night, can you?' Joy Behar spars with Meghan McCain: 'I did not miss you' while you were on maternity leave MORE and Meghan McCainMeghan Marguerite McCainWhoopi Goldberg goes viral for reaction to Meghan McCain's comments on Meghan Markle's Oprah interview Meghan McCain grills Psaki on 'hypocrisy' over migrant children facility Sinema goes viral for wearing 'Dangerous Creature' sweater on Senate floor MORE, co-hosts of ABC's "The View," argued on Mondayabout whether antifa existsas a physical group or an ideology and if it is responsible for some reported political violence across the country.

Antifa does exist,McCain said, breaking off from a discussion on the show regarding controversial comments made by Sen. Ron JohnsonRonald (Ron) Harold JohnsonSenate candidate in Wisconsin discusses new approach to organized labor GOP senator responds to Ron Johnson BLM comments: 'He's going to speak for himself' Ron Johnson faces criticism over 'racist' remarks about Capitol riot MORE (R-Wis.)last week suggesting he did not feel threatened by supporters of former President TrumpDonald TrumpThe Hill's Morning Report - Presented by Facebook - Biden to hit road, tout COVID-19 relief law Oregon senator takes center stage in Democratic filibuster debate Juan Williams: Trump's jealous rants can't hide his failures MORE who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.Johnson said that he might have been afraid for his safety if the rioters had been affiliated with "Black Lives Matter and antifa."

What separates antifa is their willingness to use violence. I have very good friends who have been reporting on antifa for months, and months, and months, McCain saidon Monday. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can say Ron Johnson is an absolute moron, we can say that not all activism is violent, but the idea that antifa doesnt exist is just factually inaccurate and wrong and a lie.

The daughter of late RepublicanSen. John McCainJohn Sidney McCainTrump and Hillary: Forever connected by self-created failure Democratic Arizona Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick says she won't seek reelection Holding Biden to his promise on human rights MORE (Ariz.)referenced reports of a federal courthouse in Portland, Ore., being set on fire during civil unrest there over the weekend. The courthouse was the site of various demonstrations against police brutality in the months that followed the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Behar later took exception with McCain'sinsistence that antifa was responsible for such attacks and should not be dismissed.

"I just want to clarify that ... the FBI director says that antifa is an ideology not an organization," Behar said. "There is no sign that they were involved in the Capitol siege, let's be clear."

"I'm not saying they were involved in the Capitol siege, I'm saying they exist," McCain chimed in.

"I'm done," Behar shot back. "I said my ... thing and you said yours I'm done."

"You said it was a fantasy, you said antifadoesn't exist andit's a fantasy," McCain pressed.

Behar shouted at McCain: "It's an idea," pointing to her head.

"No it's not," McCain responded, before theshow cut to commercial.

In the days following the Jan. 6 attack, Trump and some of his allies suggested that some of the rioters committing violence at the Capitol that day were members of antifa, something they describe as a far-left group of violent and organized extremists.

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