This is a rush transcript of "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on October 1, 2021. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS CHANNEL HOST: Good evening and welcome to TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT. Happy Friday.
Since nobody reads books anymore, all of us get all of our history from Wikipedia. It is convenient. The problem is Wikipedia is so politicized and dishonest that on a lot of topics, certainly anything related to partisan politics, it's not even really worth reading anymore. There's just too much lying.
On the other hand, there is a lot of stuff there, it's a huge site and there are some gems remaining on Wikipedia.
So if you have a minute this weekend, take a look at the entry on mass hysteria through the ages before the authorities inevitably delete it as I'm certain they will, and as you read the entry, ask yourself if any of this sounds familiar to you? There are lots of witch trials of course, many of them -- many, many, many of them over many centuries. There are plagues of spontaneous dancing, mass ghost sightings, fits of laughing and trembling and babbling that seized entire towns at once for no apparent reason. It's all there.
And then there are more esoteric outbreaks of mass hysteria. There's a medieval French nun who according to the entry quote, "Inexplicably began to meow like a cat leading the other nuns in the convent to meow as well.
Eventually all of the nuns in the convent began meowing together leaving the surrounding community astonished. This did not stop until the police threatened to whip the nuns." It's hilarious as you read it, though at the time, the nuns definitely did not see the humor in it. They sincerely thought they were cats.
Hysteria is like that. When large groups of people start acting totally crazy, the reference points disappear. It all seems normal, no matter how nuts it is.
So with that feature of human nature, which never changes, with that in mind, take a look at this tape from yesterday's hearing before the House Oversight Committee. The topic was legal abortion, but because it is the year 2021, and we're all convinced we're cats, the conversation soon turned to the newly established scientific fact that men can get pregnant. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:And I just wanted to acknowledge, a lot of people are being left out of this conversation today because as we know, people get pregnant and not just women, but I hear people over and over and over again say women get pregnant, but that's excluding people that should be a part of this conversation.
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CARLSON: Yes, you don't want to exclude anyone, and it turns out that even in 2021, there are people out there who are still claiming that only women get pregnant and they'd better stop claiming that or else.
Amanda Presto just learned this. Presto is a writer at "The Daily Wire" and by the way, a woman, so she tweeted this thought crime assuming that she had biology on her side. She wrote this quote: "Demanding others call you by your preferred pronouns and growing out your hair does not make you a woman. Stop demeaning womanhood." No, Amanda, you stop demeaning pregnant men.
For her attack on the pregnant man community, Twitter shut Amanda Presto down. We are cats, and that's all there is to it, and that's true across the ocean in Great Britain. The Head of the Labour Party in the U.K. has now declared that men too can have cervixes because of course they can, "meow."
A few days later, a senior member of the Labour Party was asked whether she agreed that men can have cervixes. She was asked on television. Watch this uncomfortable moment.
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QUESTION: Is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix? Good morning.
RACHEL REEVES, SHADOW CHANCELLOR: Good morning, Nick, and it's great to talk to you.
I just think that this issue has just become so divisive and toxic and it pits people against each other, both groups who face discrimination in society, women and trans-women, and I just find this debate incredibly unhelpful and unproductive to be totally honest.
QUESTION: Is it transphobic, yes or no?
REEVES: Look, is it -- is it transphobic? Look, I just -- I don't even know how to start answering these questions.
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CARLSON: Oh come on, Rachel Reeves, Shadow Commissioner, whatever you are of the Labour Party. It's a simple question, it's not a debate. Do men have cervixes? But she can't bring herself to say it.
On the other hand, she doesn't dare note the obvious, which is that the entire conversation is completely insane, so she breathes heavily. She harrumphs quite a bit and tries to move on to the next topic.
"The Washington Post" is hoping to avoid moments of uncertainty like this, so Jeff Bezos's newspaper has just issued a new style guidance to all of its reporters. Here is what it says, quote: "If we say pregnant women, we exclude those who are transgender and non-binary," which of course is not defined. So no more pregnant women in "The Washington Post." That's an outdated inherently offensive category, like secretaries and housewives.
And this is true in hospitals, too, across the country. Some physicians now punishing subordinates who recognize biological differences between men and women.
Dr. Lauren Chong for example, a pediatric trainee at the Sydney Children's Hospitals Network recently told "The New York Times" that healthcare workers should not use terms like "ovaries" and "uterus." Quote: "You can just say reproductive organs," Chong said, and that's an order.
The problem is that it may actually be medically relevant whether somebody has ovaries and a uterus. Reproductive organs might not be specific enough.
But honestly in 2021, when we're all cats, who cares.
Curing disease may be important, but is it more important than not offending the human rights campaign? Probably not. That's a conclusion the C.D.C. has reached.
The Center just released a graphic pointing out that quote, "Only 31 of pregnant people have been vaccinated," not pregnant women, pregnant people.
And then there's "The Lancet," which not that long ago was considered a serious medical journal. "The Lancet" just released a cover with this headline, quote: "Historically, the anatomy and physiology of bodies with vaginas have been neglected." So that's the term. You thought you were a woman, now you're a -- according to "The Lancet," a body with a vagina.
Try to imagine a more dehumanizing phrase, but then, it is probably not possible to imagine it, actually. At yesterday's House Oversight Hearing, Gloria Steinem showed up to prove that she is still alive and still relevant somehow.
For 50 years, Steinem has been -- as she describes it, defending women -- in the 70s, she wrote a piece for "Cosmopolitan" Magazine entitled, "If men could menstruate" and then she was constantly reminding us -- and this is a quote -- "If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament." Oh but now men can get pregnant. So, the script has changed a little bit.
Here was Gloria Steinem who we should note is now a cat, meowing, telling us that absolutely anybody can get pregnant and therefore anyone can get an abortion. Watch.
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GLORIA STEINEM, JOURNALIST: What's happening in Texas is not only a local issue or a women's issue, it's a step against democracy, which allows us to control our own bodies and our own voices.
Remember when Hitler was elected and he was elected, his very first official act was to padlock the family planning clinics and declare abortion a crime against the state. Mussolini did exactly the same thing because they knew that controlling reproduction and nationalizing women's bodies is the first step in a controlling state -- in an all-controlling state.
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CARLSON: It turns out Gloria Steinem was always pretty dumb, but back when she was 35, nobody noticed, but rewriting history, can't let you do that.
Sorry, you're not Wikipedia.
Actually, Adolf Hitler was an enthusiastic eugenicist, just like Margaret Sanger who founded Planned Parenthood. He encouraged abortion according to almost everyone who studied this. Jeffrey Tuomala for example, a law professor who has written a lot about the Nuremberg trials, Hitler like Gloria Steinem supported abortion, not just as a matter of physical autonomy, but as a way to keep women working and contributing to the economy, quote: "The Nazis preferred that the Eastern European workers not become pregnant so they would not be taken out of the workforce. They took measures to identify pregnant workers and to encourage or pressure them into making use of the abortion services the Nazis provided."
Oh, does that sound familiar? So once again the goal is to reduce women to wage slaves. It is more virtuous to work at JPMorgan than it is to be a mother, that's what they're telling you. That's what Ayanna Pressley is telling you. She complained that abortion bans are tools of -- you guessed it -- white supremacy, and the experts at the hearings yesterday agreed.
Watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:I think that it's very important for us to understand the intersection of racial justice policies and gender justice policies and reproductive justice policies because you don't understand why these bans on abortion are not about having more black and brown babies born, they want more white babies to be born.
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CARLSON: We're falling for it again, rising to the bait, being literal, correcting insanity because you know, it's kind of hard to resist.
There is no rational conversation about anything currently underway in the United States. We have to say, just again in the interest of fact checking that what you just heard is the opposite of the truth.
New York City is the biggest city in America, it's got eight million people. The abortion rate in New York among African-American mothers is roughly three times the rate that it is for white mothers. Thousands more black babies are born in New York that are born every year. So shutting down the abortion clinics in New York, which no one is even proposing, but if you were to do that, you would have a lot more black babies than you have now.
We can't even get to that conversation because we can no longer agree that only women have babies. Now men have babies, so for 50 years, they told us men have no interest in whether or not abortion is legal because they can't have kids, but now they can, so we thought it would be worth weighing in on this.
According to the House Oversight Committee, it is all for your own good.
Watch.
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DR. GHAZALEH MOAYEDI, OBSTETRICIAN-GYNECOLOGIST IN DALLAS, TEXAS: I know firsthand that abortion saves lives. For the thousands of people I've cared for, abortion is a blessing. Abortion is an act of love. Abortion is freedom.
We need Federal protection now.
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CARLSON:"Abortion is freedom," finally someone said it out loud, but is it? We thought for once it would be good to have a man, someone who by definition can get pregnant and have an abortion assess this claim, and that man tonight is Jason Whitlock. He is host of "Fearless." He's just written a new piece in "The Blaze" about how lunacy like this is the left's new religion.
Jason Whitlock, thanks so much for coming on tonight, so I don't know how you even begin to untangle the series of intersecting arguments none of which makes sense, but taken together become this like Gordian knot of insanity. How do you even unravel this? But I'm going to throw it to you and see if you can.
JASON WHITLOCK, HOST, "FEARLESS WITH JASON WHITLOCK": Tucker, we're looking at and we're living in an era where the truth is under an attack that it's never been under, a level of attack it's never been under. And you have to understand it from a biblical perspective.
God is a search for truth. God is truth. The Gospel is truth, and it's under attack in this very secular society and they're very clever and strategic about how they're going about it. The whole defining of truth as offensive and this whole little safe space society we've built where everybody lives in fear of saying anything that someone can define as offensive is an attack on truth.
Because the truth, particularly biblical truth in this era is probably offensive and will make people uncomfortable, but we're creating a society where we don't want to make sure anything that comes out of our mouth doesn't make any single person on the planet uncomfortable, therefore it's impossible to get to the truth.
Strategy number two, which is just as effective or perhaps the most effective is they frame the left as, the Democratic Party has framed every argument in racial terms and they control the racial conversation in this country. And so if you disagree with anything they say, if they say you know what, abortion is freedom, abortion is an extension of white supremacy, even though the truth and the facts say 40 percent of the abortions in America are happening to black women and we're killing about
650 black babies per day here in America through abortion, it is not abortion.
If it is an extension of white supremacy, it is because it's executing a genocide on black babies. The protection of abortion rights is in no way protecting black people, but the Democratic Party has just been so clever in its assault on the truth and its silencing of truth and anybody that speaks against it, I've just got to tip my hat to them because this is a propaganda campaign the likes of which I am not sure we've ever seen in the history of the planet, and it's effective, and if men don't stand up and women don't stand up and those of us that believe in truth, those of us that believe in the founding principles of this country, if we don't stand up they're going to continue to slaughter us with lies framed as truth.
CARLSON: It's pretty easy to at least on the margins to defeat the argument with like really simple commonsense, so if you care about someone, if you really love someone, your own children for example, what's the one thing you want for them? For them to have children.
You want more people like them, right, so if you love someone, wouldn't you encourage them to have kids? To reproduce? To be fruitful and multiply?
WHITLOCK: You certainly would if you want them to experience the highest level of joy that life has to offer, and I think that is having, raising, and developing young kids. Obviously, family is at the root of all successful societies. We are destroying that under a barrage of lies.
And Tucker, as a black man, a proud black man in this country, I am so offended that we, as black people, are being used by the left political machine in an attempt to grab power. They are using our previous pain and discrimination to bring us down and this entire nation down and I'm just begging those of us who are believers, not --
Just those of us with any commonsense, we must call this unbelievable racism that we're seeing from the left. We must call it out. We must stand up against it, call it exactly what it is.
The left -- if there's anybody imitating Hitler, Margaret Sanger, it is the left. They are trying to destroy this country and they are doing it by destroying black people first and then using race and the religion of race that they've replaced Christianity and the Judeo-Christian values that made this country great.
It was our pursuit of the approval of God that made this country accomplish great things. Now, we're all begging to be on the right side of some racial history that the left is going to write.
CARLSON: Nicely put, as always. Jason Whitlock, thank you so much for coming on tonight.
So, we still have no idea what these objects are in the sky. They are still unidentified flying objects, but we know there are a lot of them and we know they've been videotaped by U.S. military aircraft near military installations and U.S. Navy ships. What's interesting is that as far as we know, nobody in the Federal government is trying to figure out what this is and what it's about. That may change soon.
We'll have an update for you after the break.
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CARLSON: The House of Representatives just passed a Defense Bill, excuse me -- that will cost more than $770 billion. We told you about it previous nights this week. Some of it is hard to defend, but some of it is worthwhile and some of it is interesting.
So the bill includes a provision to create a permanent office under the Defense Secretary that will be tasked with investigating reports of UFOs.
That office would quote, "Carry out on a department-wide basis the mission currently performed by the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force."
Interesting. It's unclear if the Senate will approve that provision. We'll be watching.
Lue Elizondo led The Pentagon's secret UFO Task Force for years, he joins us tonight to assess. Lue, thanks so much for coming on.
So, what would this do if it becomes law? And do we need it?
LUE ELIZONDO, FORMER PENTAGON OFFICIAL: Yes, Tucker. This is really historic. Yes, first of all, we absolutely need it. It's a long time coming. Frankly, we should have had it decades ago if you ask me. But it is historic and it is historic for several reasons.
In this obscure five pages that most people may not be aware of, it really says a lot. In fact, it -- first of all, it creates an environment where it disestablishes the UAP Task Force, which was a temporary capability to begin with and solidifies a permanent capability. Two, it also forces the Secretary of Defense to report on an annual basis to Congress what we've learned about UAPs. Three, it also requires us to now work with our international friends and allies. That's a big deal.
And if that wasn't a big deal enough, two other items that I found very interesting. Number four is that it -- and you kind of broke this story a few years ago, it requires any recovered material associated with UAPs to finally be reported to Congress, and then last but not least, it also requires the government to report to Congress any adverse medical effects that have been encountered by our pilots who may have come up close and personal to these UAPs.
CARLSON: So that suggests there have been adverse medical effects, that American servicemen have been hurt by proximity to these objects?
ELIZONDO: Yes, it actually suggests two things. It suggests that, what you just said that pilots may have actually suffered medical consequences, adversely; but also, that there is recovered material and that recovered material may be in the possession of the U.S. government.
CARLSON: So does anybody that you're aware of in The Pentagon believe -- sincerely believe -- that these objects are part of the Russian or Chinese military or that they're foreign military aircraft?
ELIZONDO: I mean, honestly, if you were to ask them off the record, no. I think, the consensus that this isn't Russian or Chinese technology, of course, you still have to keep that door open just a crack and I think it helps have the conversation help socialize it initially to especially some folks who are just now actually hearing about this for the very first time.
As crazy as it sounds, there are still people when you say hey, have you heard about the UAP issue that we're encountering off the Coast of California or over in the Middle East? They are saying no, what are you talking about?
So unfortunately, you still have to keep that part of the conversation open, but I think the general consensus is that we are dealing with something else.
CARLSON: Yes, something else. I mean, why is this not the biggest story ever of our lifetimes? And of course it is.
Lue Elizondo, thank you so much for all your efforts on this.
ELIZONDO: Always my pleasure. Thank you.
CARLSON: Because it is the biggest story of our lifetime, there is no getting around that, bigger even than COVID, we've been covering this for five years. We've put together a documentary in fact on "Tucker Carlson Originals," it's called "The UFO Files." You can stream it now on FOX Nation, if you like.
So the Southern border is open. People from all around the world are responding as you would respond if you lived in a poor country and someone offered you free healthcare. We just learned how many people are expected to arrive from foreign countries illegally uninvited just this month, and that number is shocking. It's much bigger than you would think, that's next.
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CARLSON: Well, the Southern border is still open tonight, it appears there are more people on the way to the United States and the free healthcare they've been promised than we thought.
FOX's Matt Finn has the numbers on that for us tonight. Hey, Matt.
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