What's Next for Bradley Manning? 8/21/2013 4:00PM Transcript
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... the ... private first class Bradley Manning is sentenced to thirty five years in jail ... while knacks the ham ... will have back and mall right and right now on the New Saab good afternoon and welcome I'm Simon Constable ... all I'm Simon Bradley Manning Manning is a big question not just the ham ... joining me recall Pfizer Patel says co director of the liberty and national security for another friend's son of the justices found the stem the streets of Manhattan thank you very much his debut on the New Saab increased at a thank you for having me so let's go through ... with the some of things with thirty five years to do anything strike you but I simply open on time tonight ... was an awfully long time that if you look at the other whistleblower are ... tight ... prosecutions that happens that in this administration you seen those people getting ... sentences in the range of eighteen knots twenty knots thirty months that's about the rain to reach that people been sentenced for other ... weeks of government secrets and compare that to the thirty five years it does seem like an extraordinarily long time ... this is only those sending a message ... aam to to of of what the weakest right that spot ... absolutely yes it's a it's a it's probably ... not what can he do can be can he ... you feel that skinny get down to time so to think ... why is it has a lot of steals options and unique in that apply for clemency to these review board in the military ... he has an automatic right to appeal to the military's Court of appeal ... and you can actually even take this case all the way up to the U S Supreme Court ... I'm ... and are important legal issues in this case which might need to add and change him and what he's been convicted ... to use it ... is it likely that the heat that he gets this down substantially what's the what's your feeling on the summit of a lot of people look look look of the sky and say yet he did something stupid I don't think anybody ... disagrees with that that this was was was ready quite quite unbelievably students in some ways ... the same time no one is that in many ... out of all not not many people autonomy get that house ... write a ... mean that's one of the things like the law doesn't care whether he has it that hard aren't that hard for ... the mining and don't see in other areas of law though it it does matter so many cases it matches you have the malice so that in in in the sense that you know we are humans how can we not be swayed by that PPP millet re ... the Milford judges achievements what I'm that that was one of the factors of the jet's digs in theory take into account in sentencing now ... recall that under the military justice system he is eligible for parole after ten years ago you never have a sentence of more than thirty hours ... automatically after ten years are eligible for consideration for for will and he's been he's been and he's been locked up for a considerable time so fat with ... for years the three s of a pot of that will come to an annual so ... aam this in some time off for having ... been and I guess ... today ... it aggressively ... death and aggressively up Porsche ... yes I'm basically in around seven years or so keen to bring his case out for Roh Moo can ... you also can get it down even futher through this review process from ... this and he can appeal it just as anybody else can appeal their their prison sentence doesn't become easier for ... people and probably many of them is a lot publicity around this and everyone the country knows about it will the millet re knows about it ... doesn't become easier when this is out of the public on a four that the most records to say I'm the and with the present system decided ... you know you've been a good TV critic of Prisma UK to blunt the lesson during his arm ... was thirty seven years from now public sentiment will no doubt be much less interested in Bradley Manning that it is today and so when it comes time for him to go ... up before our old ward I think he would have that the case to make at that time who can hum tum ... we feel is chances are she's getting attacked one for some time and he aam ... to BBB he's known as the day hero acidic and BP up in my neighborhood so aam it it seems likely to be attacked on present time ... we're Levy given protective custody ... I think it's it's it's a tough thing because he doesn't wanna be in solitary obviously and so you don't wanna create a situation where he's put in solitary for his own protection ... well ... I aam ... and the same time ago it is after the military to make sure that he is an attack that's their responsibility ... also in the rebels say ... come forces killed over one thousand people in the sum of the Damascus any poison gas attack and the government has denied the reports Pfizer Patel a former senior policy officer for the organization of the prohibition of chemical weapons system and a day and the continues with us ... aam you how great ... these two stories history ... all the new all the news to die ... aam ... what can you tell us about this attack they you know why I think it this way we know ... only a limited amount that this attack and we have the allegations date and about a thousand people died and people are complaining about a respiratory illness that is when suggests that it's likely some kind if it is a chemical weapons attack then ... those are the same tens of that kind of nerve agents and their fat attacks ... against the asset not a lot of them I guess is that make the same ... so late BX or sandwich or that they know they just attack the nervous system ... they can compete in a gas or liquid eye and ... that doesn't sound Basin the symptoms reported that its mustard gas because that that creates blisters and so forth and and that was something that accuse him fuss for Woolwich has said it was a hundred years ago now ... on the PC might get some of these these agents that you know these these these gases will ... make the Coming shells or or that this post and then they need to activate the Madame estate to spur us very quickly ... write ... not necessarily as I ... can actually linger for a long time and also depend so we will be possible to go to the sign and discover whether this wasn't the trace elements that oh absolutely I mean I have no doubt that have qualified chemical weapons teams that says the UN team is on the ground now ... they discover ... that ... it's an order gas or really any other kind of chemical agent attack it's even several weeks of paid to confess that ... quick quickly but if it if it does tie mounts that chemical weapons were used by the asset regime it is the alignment being cross that present Obama talked about if if if the line is crossed and on this happens ... when chemical weapons is it's it's a dream of the US might have to get involved it is the isthe without being given absolutely thank twenty twenty full of that's the treaty indication that he gave I guess I was almost a year ago now he said and this is the red line that they can cross they cannot use chemical weapons on civilians ... and so if they if that and there's the UN team though that if they were to find ... chemical weapons use I think he would be hard pressed to back away from that ... okay so maybe it's just some of which are free to be on the war yet again and again thank you very much Pfizer Patel ... the confusion hit the markets as the Fed was of July policy meeting minutes offered ... no clear signal on when the central bank will begin to end its money printing program ... MoneyBeat Report and Steve Russell and joins me now on the site to explain ... explain the confusion ... Monday's more trim the money war ... that ... nobody knows what's going on right now suffer from the of the minutes from the latest Fed meeting business all you officials that wanted to want to start tapering sooner than later ... your mother's that said ... no it's not playtime in and basically it didn't really answer any questions as to when the Fed is going to move next ... lot of reaction now is people ... that bought that September was going to be that that I'm that that is going to start ... pulling back on stimulus they still think that now ... people wouldn't think that still don't think that also so it did not not a lot of change here but think the big takeaway though ... CME's might add so much about school and markets is ... you didn't get a clear cut direction among others many of uncertainty people don't like uncertainty and on top of that ... Fed officials seen the will but more guarded about the economy the scene that you know maybe things aren't as good as they recently had opened ... he was very get better so it was better than terrible they thought that the tunnel but now I think that they're even starting to pull back a little bit so that is it that so beautiful was a little bit better than terrible and I think it's is not as much ... that meant I would fall ... so I mean really I mean it's not like them and it took about wanting to sell the employment situation ... and that is one of the big goals of this this money printing program which of which is going on seemingly for her upright longtime ... box ... they don't just want any old shops on the spot the problem now is the mix of jobs isn't the normal mix of jobs that tend to be fairly Ofwat asleep I joked with no benefits right ... by Mark D I was not signed and that isn't exactly conducive to say you know to to some of the Keane's is ... exactly and if you look at some of the distribution of jobs where the jobs coming from the coming from ... the whistleblower pain on areas of the market rate now so not to disparage any of those jobs but what does it say to them but I mean what you know them of them all banking jobs that are in investment bankers and you're feeling goes to get ... those jobs on on Saturday night they're not high paying jobs exactly and so yet there's a lot of worry about some of the labor force to station rate which is that the team won the status line into the open to station rate ... goes down when people give up looking for a job because they just like oh my I've tried to find a bride icons and there's nothing out there so that's also what ever reason why the unemployment rate is coming down some on the surface anonymous low unemployment looks good ... but the dig will deepen its because people are just quitting the workforce will that's not a good sign right there so ... the getting back to the minute so I think that im ... looking at this ... if if the Fed is getting a little bit more guarded about the economy getting a little bit more pessimistic about the economic outlook ... that's a clear-cut negative rate now and and maybe it means that that that the bond buying continues ... it's a it's a way you will of that that that I think in in the grand scheme of things that results in that sense of history but they could still ... starts reducing the amount of money referencing in September because ... that ... would just ... do it that we barely saw leads up eighty five billion a month is one of their friends and ... you know buying the bonds of credit money on how to know what ... they could make it ... the former healthily and they cried when I make it then the next month they can make it eighty four million and eighty three how ... big is this the rebate we very slow the rate cut from the upright isn't a great when you bring up because a lot of people were sort of interesting okay they didn't even by fifteen twenty billion rupees sixty five seventy to be the new number ... now here is what people talking about seventy five to eighty so his guts your point is that the speaker could be even slower than what was initially see ... yet the content that because I might from other recommended for this crazy stuff yours or the plethora much of ... a flood of Iran s options or has hit the market Tuesday and now ... the NYSE has told officials and tends ... to come to complete a with you tonight with small mistake of Aunty joins us from ... amid last check the price of a map ... as a five-year ... high and someone one of the firm set up behind the flood of Irani is sort of oh what this mom of a Goldman Sachs ... we are now ... another one of these issues as a sign the you know that these sorts of things have ... become ... in on for so it's semi regular occurrence over the last couple years and and what it was yesterday but at the open of the markets ... I'm a software system a Goldman Sachs uses to try and gauge its clients' interest in buying ... out various options contracts ... and I mistakenly or ... repairs it a lot of orders out into the market that ... became ... actual trades when other traders sought them out there and interacted with that so what you have to say ... you know more than twenty four hours later the exchange officials are going through their pre Ewing each one of these trades they are trying to decide ... which ones will stand them that their rules which ones are to be canceled ... and which ones are somewhere in between where they think they can find a middle ground between the price that that that Rey When on that and and what it really should ... so did check up ... let let's give this why Goldman Sachs my app that might be able to have at least some possibly all of these Iranian that what they say are Iranians trades option strife ... can sold and so that means if they've lost money on aam which could limit their growth on ... them that's not a problem whereas if your ideal options trading and we ... had the bomb accidentally when we get this time treatments ... well it these changes have clear-cut rules on now what constitutes a at what they call clearly erroneous ... and that they have a process for evaluating Hugo Chavez to be canceled altogether in which case yes you're right ... Goldman says when ... you walk away from that particular one ... you know which is the patients and because not everyone of them is going to be canceled and which ones to come out somewhere in the middle ... which is really what the traders prefer ... and some important reason this is such a big deal not just that Goldman Sachs and not just that the exchanges but to a lot of traders in the market is because ... those orders plans out there ... before you know bought and sold options ... basis of the sort of the colon bought out ... so what you've got now ... the fallout of traders all across the country will hold positions and they are not sure whether you know those will be honored ... it made all the trades is the most positions ... they'll be stuck with a new position they might not want to sell and and ... the confusing thing if you're a traitor ... and creates a ton of uncertainty in the market timing one one other things so aam you now I'm I'm I'm from its friends with him in the in the futures markets ... a long time ago is that you know it's it's you know if you lose money even though many cats that that's when you got on the contract price ... that that's the idea that twelve Loeb's exchanges work ... well that's true here I mean your expense however they do have these policies in place where you know someone makes a affecting order ... I've that sort of thing you know they they try and allow for that sort of thing where yet ... the objection to your life is that the traders ... out there in the world that have interacted with these orders that Goldman said ... they're saying hey ... you know this is just a dumb pipe another firm if you're going to cancel the order I end up with exposure ... and that's not right ... you're transferring risk from Goldman Sachs who made the mistake of me with it ... and you know there's gonna be some kind of middle ground ... in the last of them chose to me a lot a lot of bylaw bang with a bowl of warm well enough thank you very much was applied and Jacob Bunge Ee ... of The will Street ... it's time the next twenty four had always shale I'm I'm Simon console Williams a sneak peek ... of what's happening in financial markets over the next twenty four oz and office mcrook lattice of MarketWatch ... thanks of a mess of it ... so if you look back on ... it's down after hours on it's earnings report and this is ... a turnaround effort the stock actually been up about eighty percent so far this year but investors are looking to sing after hours ... I also wanna mention rather than just a turnaround story of a growth name that's reporting after hours is and celestial ... as the company that's benefiting from the center signed ... off on the way ... no ... natural and organic foods and I'm not has all the things ... this is a different day different names different spelling and it's up a lot after hours on her that that the unit in one of the net effect overseas overnight China and Europe have these purchasing Management is pushing to get it which is that I think DH off owl ... the many facts in businesses NAO brand in China so it gets a lot of attention this'll be the first reading on on ... how many factions and there are ... so far in August and he could see bodies move depending on how this number turns out ... I mean we could see some reaction to the Fed's minutes but as you were just discussing ... we are confused here so most of the reaction would be confusing exciting when when I mean I think everyone will be confused but because the volatility ... that we've already seen the last few days we've above the multiple affiliate are quickly before the open ominously Azzam jobless claims fall faster and thirty thousand ... on the plan from one entrance right and we also got some stalks point ... read ... and a couple retailer's ex and doing well this year I will be Bockel and dollar tree I think of ... analysts say one thing the Buffaloes that has a lot of exclusive items in the store is another topic that's ... close to your heart have some exclusive merchandise what once the Yukon get anywhere else because if you can get some Rossi could ... price comparison and that's not good for business exactly so that people think they're doing the right thing with that and and and on trees another one that's had a nice performance so far this year although ... there some concern with Wal-Mart having a weak report earlier ... interesting stuff looks to be busy in the mornings a week and it didn't reply to specific facts make ... that work lattice with this awful lot of Warsaw come ... I'm Simon Qassam on now was you next twenty fall and that was in use up the right
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