{"id":32032,"date":"2017-06-06T13:41:27","date_gmt":"2017-06-06T17:41:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opensource.im\/uncategorized\/we-want-to-limit-use-of-e2e-encryption-confirms-uk-minister-techcrunch.php"},"modified":"2017-06-06T13:41:27","modified_gmt":"2017-06-06T17:41:27","slug":"we-want-to-limit-use-of-e2e-encryption-confirms-uk-minister-techcrunch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/encryption\/we-want-to-limit-use-of-e2e-encryption-confirms-uk-minister-techcrunch.php","title":{"rendered":"We want to limit use of e2e encryption, confirms UK minister &#8211; TechCrunch"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    The UK government has once again amped up its attacks on tech    platforms use of end-to-end encryption, and called for International co-operation to    regulate the Internet so that it cannot be used as a safe    space for extremists to communicate and spread propaganda    online.  <\/p>\n<p>    The comments by UK Prime Minister, Theresa May, and Home    Secretary, Amber Rudd, come in the wake of another domestic    terrorist attack, the third since March, after a group of    terrorists used a van to plow down pedestrians in London Bridge    on Saturday evening, before going on a knife rampage attacking    people in streets and bars.  <\/p>\n<p>    Speaking outside Downing Street yesterday, May swung the finger    of blame at big Internet companies  criticizing platform    giants for providing safe spaces for extremists to spread    messages of hate online.  <\/p>\n<p>    Early reports have suggested the attackers may    have used YouTube to access extremist videos.  <\/p>\n<p>    We cannot allow this ideology the safe space it needs to    breed. Yet that is precisely what the internet  and the big    companies that provide internet-based services  provide, May    said. We need to work with allied, democratic governments to    reach international agreements that regulate cyberspace to    prevent the spread of extremism and terrorist planning. And we    need to do everything we can at home to reduce the risks of    extremism online.  <\/p>\n<p>    We need to deprive the extremists of their safe spaces    online, she added.  <\/p>\n<p>    Speaking in an interview on ITVs Peston on Sunday program    yesterday, UK Home Secretary Amber Rudd further fleshed out the    prime ministers comments. She said the government wants to do    more to stop the way young men are being groomed into    radicalization online  including getting tech companies to do    moreto take down extremist material, and also to limit    access to end-to-end encryption.  <\/p>\n<p>    Rudd also attacked tech firms use of encryption in the wake of    the Westminster terror attack in March, although the first round of meetings    she held with Internet companies including Facebook, Google and    Twitter in the wake of that earlier attack apparently focused    on pushing for them to develop tech tools to automatically identify    extremist content and block it before it is widely    disseminated.  <\/p>\n<p>    The prime minister also made a push for international    co-operation on online extremism during the G7 summit last month  coming away with a    joint statement to put pressure on tech firms to do more. We    want companies to develop tools to identify and remove harmful    materials automatically, May said then.  <\/p>\n<p>    Though it is far from clear whether this geopolitical push will    translate into anything more than a few headlines  given tech    firms are already using and developing tools for automating    takedowns. And the G7 nations apparently did not ink any    specific policy proposals  such as on co-ordinated fines for    social media takedown failures.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the extremist content front, pressure has certainly been growing across    Europe for tech platforms to do more  including proposals such    as a draft law in Germany which does suggestfines of up to50 million for social    media firms that fail to promptly takedown illegal hate speech,    for example. While last month a UK parliamentary committee    urged the government to consider a similar approach  and UK    ministers are apparently open to the idea.  <\/p>\n<p>    But the notion of the UK being able to secure international    agreement on harmonizing content regulation online across    borders seems entirely fanciful  given different legal regimes    vis-a-vis free speech, with the US having constitutional    protections for hate speech vs hate speech being illegal in    certain European countries, for example.  <\/p>\n<p>    Again, these comments in the immediate aftermath of an attack    seem mostly aimed at diverting attention from tougher political    questions  including over domestic police resourcing; over UK    ally Saudi Arabias financial support for extremism; and why    known hate preachers were apparently allowed to continue    broadcasting their message in the UK  <\/p>\n<p>    Blaming social media platforms is politically convenient but    intellectually lazy, tweeted professor Peter Neumann, director of    theInternational Centre for the Study of Radicalisation    and Political Violence. Most jihadists are now using    end-to-end encrypted messenger platforms e.g. Telegram. This    has not solved problem, just made it different.  <\/p>\n<p>    Responding to the governments comments in a statement,    Facebooks Simon Milner, UK director of policy, said: We want    to provide a service where people feel safe. That means we do    not allow groups or people that engage in terrorist activity,    or posts that express support for terrorism. We want Facebook    to be a hostile environment for terrorists. Using a combination    of technology and human review, we work aggressively to remove    terrorist content from our platform as soon as we become aware    of it  and if we become aware of an emergency involving    imminent harm to someones safety, we notify law enforcement.    Online extremism can only be tackled with strong partnerships.    We have long collaborated with policymakers, civil society, and    others in the tech industry, and we are committed to continuing    this important work together.  <\/p>\n<p>    Facebook has faced wider criticism of its approach to content    moderation in recent months  and last month announced it would be adding an    additional 3,000 staff to its team of reviewers, bringing the    global total to 7,500.  <\/p>\n<p>    In another reaction statement Twitters UK head of public    policy, Nick Pickles, added: Terrorist content has no place on    Twitter. We continue to expand the use of technology as part of    a systematic approach to removing this type of content. We will    never stop working to stay one step ahead and will continue to    engage with our partners across industry, government, civil    society and academia.  <\/p>\n<p>    Twitter details how many terrorism-related accounts it suspends    in its Transparency Report  the vast majority of which it says    it identifies using its own tools, rather than relying on    user reports.  <\/p>\n<p>    On the controversial topic of limiting end-to-end encryption, a    report in The Sun newspaper last month suggested a re-elected    Conservative government would prioritize a decryption law to    force social media platforms which are using e2e encryption to    effectively backdoor these systems so that they could hand over    decrypted data when served a warrant.  <\/p>\n<p>    The core legislation for this decrypt law already exists, aka    the Investigatory Powers Act  which was passed at the end of    last year. Following the General Election on June 8, a new UK    Parliament will just need to agree the supplementary technical    capability regulation which places a legal obligation on ISPs    and communication service providers to maintain the necessary    capability to be able to provide decrypted data on request    (albeit, without providing technical detail on how any of this    will happen in practice).  <\/p>\n<p>    Given Rudds comments now on limiting e2e encryption it seems    clear the preferred route for an incoming Conservative UK    government will be to pressure tech firms not to use strong    encryption to safeguard user data in  backed up by the legal    muscle of the country having what has been widely interpreted    as a decrypt law.  <\/p>\n<p>    However such moves will clearly undermine online security at a    time when the risks of doing so are becoming increasingly    clear. As crypto expert Bruce Schneier told    usrecently, the only way for the UK government    to get the access it wants is to destroy everyones security.  <\/p>\n<p>    Moreover, a domestic decrypt law is unlikely to have any impact    on e2e encrypted services  such as Telegram  which are not    based in the UK, and would therefore surely not consider    themselves bound by UK legal jurisdiction.  <\/p>\n<p>    And even if the UK government forced ISPs and app stores to    block access to all services that do not comply with its    decryption requirements, there would still be workarounds for    terrorists to continue accessing strongly encrypted services.    Even as law-abiding users of mainstream tech platforms risk    having their security undermined by political pressure on    strong encryption.  <\/p>\n<p>    Commenting on the governments planned Internet crackdown, the    Open Rights Group had this to say: It is    disappointing that in the aftermath of this attack, the    governments response appears to focus on the regulation of the    Internet and encryption. This could be a very risky approach.    If successful, Theresa May could push these vile networks into    even darker corners of the web, where they will be even harder    to observe.  <\/p>\n<p>    But we should not be distracted: the Internet and companies    like Facebook are not a cause of this hatred and violence, but    tools that can be abused. While governments and companies    should take sensible measures to stop abuse, attempts to    control the Internet is not the simple solution that Theresa    May is claiming.  <\/p>\n<p>    Meanwhile, asked about his support for encryption back in    September 2015given the risks    of his messaging platform being used by terrorists  Telegram    founder Pavel Durov said: I think that privacy, ultimately,    and our right for privacy is more important than our fear of    bad things happening, like terrorism Ultimately the ISIS will    always find a way to communicate within themselves. And if any    means of communication turns out to be not secure for them,    then they switch to another one. So I dont think were    actually taking part in this activities. I dont think we    should feel guilty about this. I still think were doing the    right thing  protecting our users privacy.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Original post:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2017\/06\/05\/we-want-to-limit-use-of-e2e-encryption-confirms-uk-minister\/\" title=\"We want to limit use of e2e encryption, confirms UK minister - TechCrunch\">We want to limit use of e2e encryption, confirms UK minister - TechCrunch<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> The UK government has once again amped up its attacks on tech platforms use of end-to-end encryption, and called for International co-operation to regulate the Internet so that it cannot be used as a safe space for extremists to communicate and spread propaganda online. The comments by UK Prime Minister, Theresa May, and Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, come in the wake of another domestic terrorist attack, the third since March, after a group of terrorists used a van to plow down pedestrians in London Bridge on Saturday evening, before going on a knife rampage attacking people in streets and bars. Speaking outside Downing Street yesterday, May swung the finger of blame at big Internet companies criticizing platform giants for providing safe spaces for extremists to spread messages of hate online<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[45],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32032","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-encryption"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32032"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32032"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32032\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32032"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32032"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32032"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}