{"id":31233,"date":"2017-02-07T01:44:15","date_gmt":"2017-02-07T06:44:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opensource.im\/uncategorized\/mccain-says-taliban-murdered-people-because-of-chelsea-manning-and-wikileaks-politifact.php"},"modified":"2017-02-07T01:44:15","modified_gmt":"2017-02-07T06:44:15","slug":"mccain-says-taliban-murdered-people-because-of-chelsea-manning-and-wikileaks-politifact","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/chelsea-manning\/mccain-says-taliban-murdered-people-because-of-chelsea-manning-and-wikileaks-politifact.php","title":{"rendered":"McCain says Taliban &#8216;murdered&#8217; people because of Chelsea Manning and WikiLeaks &#8211; PolitiFact"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>  President Donald Trump tweeted on Jan. 26 that Chelsea Manning is  an an ungrateful traitor for calling former President Barack  Obama a weak leader. (Inform video)<\/p>\n<p>    Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., opposes former President Barack    Obamas decision to shorten Chelsea Mannings prison sentence     in part, he says, because her decision to release a large    cache of government documents to WikiLeaks resulted in    unnecessary deaths.  <\/p>\n<p>    In 2013, a judge sentenced Manning, a private in the U.S. Army,    to 35 years in prison, an unprecedentedly long sentence for a    leak of government information, according to the     American Civil Liberties Union. In January 2017, Obama    decided to commute her sentence. She will leave prison in May.  <\/p>\n<p>        In a Jan. 18, 2017, interview, Fox News Host Bill OReilly    asked McCain for his reaction to Obamas decision.  <\/p>\n<p>    McCain said he felt \"sorrow for the families of those    individuals who identified in these leaks in Afghanistan that    the Taliban went after and murdered. And rage because this    president is basically endorsing a proposal that allows someone    to go free who is responsible for the needless deaths of those    people who are allies.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    OReilly pushed back on McCains assertion that individuals    identified in the leaks were killed by the Taliban.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"I just wanted to know if it was specific leaks that came to    you as a Senator which showed what WikiLeaks did with Manning's    help killed people that were helping the U.S.A.,\" OReilly    said.  <\/p>\n<p>    McCain replied: \"Let me be specific. The information I received    when I was there was that the Taliban went after these people.    I assume, killed them.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    The interview left us still wondering if people were killed    because their names appeared in the documents that Manning    leaked, so we decided to put McCains claim on the    Truth-O-Meter.  <\/p>\n<p>    McCain spokeswoman Julie Tarallo said the Taliban has a history    of retaliating against people who cooperate with United States    forces. She pointed to a 2010 interview by     British television station Channel 4 with a Taliban    spokesman, who said the group would \"punish\" Afghan nationals    working for the United States named in the WikiLeaks logs.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"If they are U.S. spies, then we know how to punish them,\" said    the spokesman,Zabihullah Mujahid.  <\/p>\n<p>    But we could find no evidence the Taliban acted on these    threats. We scoured court documents, congressional hearing    transcripts and media reports, and we found that the government    has not named a single individual who was killed because he or    she was named in the leaked files.  <\/p>\n<p>    Not in public record  <\/p>\n<p>    In 2010, Manning  then known as Bradley Manning  was an Army    analyst in Iraq. She downloaded about 700,000 government files    and gave many of them to WikiLeaks, who made the files public.    The records included diplomatic cables, reports about the U.S.    detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and the wars in    Iraq and Afghanistan, and notably a video of a 2007    American helicopter attack in Baghdad that killed    civilians.  <\/p>\n<p>    The government was concerned that the Taliban or other    adversaries might retaliate against foreign nationals named in    the documents because the individuals cooperated with the    United States. However, officials have never pointed to an    example of someone actually getting killed because of the    leaks.  <\/p>\n<p>    The closest call came in August 2013, during the sentencing    phase of Mannings trial, when the government     tried to make the case that Mannings leaks caused harm.    Robert Carr, a retired U.S. Army brigadier general who led an    investigation into the leak, testified that he knew of \"one    individual that was killed\" by the Taliban as a result of the    leaks.  <\/p>\n<p>    However, Carr conceded that the person killed hadnt actually    been named in the documents Manning gave to WikiLeaks. As a    result, the judge decided to strike that testimony from the    record. Heres the relevant exchange (from     an unofficial transcript provided by the Freedom of the    Press Foundation):  <\/p>\n<p>    Carr: \"As a result of the Afghan logs, I only    know of one individual that was killed. The individual was an    Afghan national. The Afghan national had a relationship with    the United States government and the Taliban came out publicly    and said that they killed him as a result of him being    associated with the information in these logs.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Defense attorney Major Thomas Hurley: \"Ma'am,    we may object again as to relevance. General Carr is going to    going to talk about how this person wasn't listed in the    WikiLeaks disclosures. This individual's name wasn't    listed among those names, among the hundreds of names he talked    about.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Judge Denise Lind: \"Is this, what you're    testifying to, tied to the information in the disclosures    in any way?\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Carr: \"The Taliban killed him and tied him to    the disclosures. We went back and searched for this    individual's name in all of the disclosures. The name was not    there. It was a terrorist act on behalf of the Taliban    threatening all of the others out there. But the name of the    individual that was killed was not in the disclosures.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    So the Taliban said they killed an individual because of the    WikiLeaks logs, but the logs didnt actually mention this    individual. Carr said that he only knew of that example.  <\/p>\n<p>    In his     closing argument at Mannings sentencing trial, lead    attorney for the government Ashden Fein only said the leaks put    hundreds of people \"at risk of injury, incarceration or death    as a result of the release of their names.\" He didnt argue    that anyone actually died.  <\/p>\n<p>    We should note that part of Mannings trial took place in a    closed hearing in order to discuss classified information. So    its possible that deaths caused directly by Mannings leaks    could have happened, and we cant know unless that information    was declassified.  <\/p>\n<p>    David Coombs, Mannings lawyer, attended the classified    hearings. He told us that the government didnt present any    evidence that showed individuals were killed as a direct result    of the leaks.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"That information was never brought out because it doesnt    exist,\" Coombs said, calling McCains claim \"completely false.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Fein, the lead attorney for the government on the    case,declined to talk to us on the record.  <\/p>\n<p>    If not deaths, what damage did Mannings leaks do to national    security? The government has repeatedly said the main impact is    a \"chilling effect\"  meaning foreign officials and citizens    are less likely to speak and cooperate with American soldiers    and diplomats.  <\/p>\n<p>    But Obama administration officials have indicated the leaks    didnt actually cause a lot of harm.  <\/p>\n<p>    \"Ive heard the impact of these releases on our foreign policy    described as a meltdown, as a game-changer, and so on. I think    those descriptions are fairly significantly overwrought,\" said    former     Defense Secretary Robert Gates in 2010, adding later, \"Is    this embarrassing? Yes. Is it awkward? Yes. Consequences for    U.S. foreign policy? I think fairly modest.  <\/p>\n<p>    In a December 2010 interview     on NBC, former Vice President Joe Biden said about    WikiLeaks, \"I don't think there's any substantive damage, no.    Look, some of the cables that are coming out here and around    the world are embarrassing.\"  <\/p>\n<p>    Our ruling  <\/p>\n<p>    McCain said, \"The Taliban went after and murdered\" people    identified in the Chelsea Manning leaks.  <\/p>\n<p>    In the several years since WikiLeaks released hundreds of    thousands of government documents leaked by Manning, the    government has not publicly identified a single example of the    Taliban killing someone because that person was named in the    leaks. If someone had died as a result, it seems logical that    the incident would have become public knowledge, either through    Manning's trial or in media reports.  <\/p>\n<p>    At Mannings sentencing trial, one Army witness said he knew    the Taliban killed one person and blamed it on the WikiLeaks    revelations. However, that persons name doesnt appear in the    files, and the military has provided no additional information.  <\/p>\n<p>    We rate McCains claim Mostly False.  <\/p>\n<p>    Update: This article has been updated to    include more information from McCain's staff.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the rest here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.politifact.com\/truth-o-meter\/statements\/2017\/feb\/01\/john-mccain\/mccain-says-taliban-murdered-people-because-chelse\/\" title=\"McCain says Taliban 'murdered' people because of Chelsea Manning and WikiLeaks - PolitiFact\">McCain says Taliban 'murdered' people because of Chelsea Manning and WikiLeaks - PolitiFact<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> President Donald Trump tweeted on Jan. 26 that Chelsea Manning is an an ungrateful traitor for calling former President Barack Obama a weak leader. 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