{"id":30075,"date":"2015-03-28T20:49:07","date_gmt":"2015-03-29T00:49:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opensource.im\/uncategorized\/wikileaks-ttp-leak-chevron-and-ecuador-is-the-argument-in-favour-of-the-investment-chapter.php"},"modified":"2015-03-28T20:49:07","modified_gmt":"2015-03-29T00:49:07","slug":"wikileaks-ttp-leak-chevron-and-ecuador-is-the-argument-in-favour-of-the-investment-chapter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wikileaks\/wikileaks-ttp-leak-chevron-and-ecuador-is-the-argument-in-favour-of-the-investment-chapter.php","title":{"rendered":"Wikileaks TTP Leak; Chevron And Ecuador Is The Argument In Favour Of The Investment Chapter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    Wikileaks has released a version of the investment chapter in    the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the trade treaty under    discussion at present. As a result the usual suspects are up in    arms about the denial of democracy, the selling out of the law    to corporate interests and all the usual malarkey. All most    puzzling as the actual intention of this part of this treaty is    to ensure that governments have to live up to the laws and    contracts that they, as governments, sign up to. And that    really is it. The mechanism by which this is done is that any    arguments or cases where theres a decision to be made about    whether the government has lived up to what it said it will do    are decided outside of the court systems controlled by that    government. As someone who has, at the personal level, done    substantial work in the sort of countries where this would be    important it sounds like a great idea to me. And as a matter of    public policy it sounds like a great idea that a trade treaty    should contain such protections for investors.  <\/p>\n<p>    What really confuses is people I regard as normally being    reasonably level headed near losing their minds over this. I    dont cover tech in the way I used to so I was unaware that    Cory Doctorow is on very much the wrong     side of this:  <\/p>\n<p>      The Investment Chapter highlights the intent of the TPP      negotiating parties, led by the United States, to increase      the power of global corporations by creating a supra-national      court, or tribunal, where foreign firms can sue states and      obtain taxpayer compensation for expected future profits.      These investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) tribunals are      designed to overrule the national court systems. ISDS      tribunals introduce a mechanism by which multinational      corporations can force governments to pay compensation if the      tribunal states that a countrys laws or policies affect the      companys claimed future profits. In return, states hope that      multinationals will invest more. Similar mechanisms have      already been used. For example, US tobacco company Phillip      Morris used one such tribunal to sue Australia (June 2011       ongoing) for mandating plain packaging of tobacco products on      public health grounds; and by the oil giant Chevron Chevron against      Ecuador in an attempt to evade a multi-billion-dollar      compensation ruling for polluting the environment.    <\/p>\n<p>    Yes, Chevron has used this sort of treaty provision in that    case with Ecuador. And this is a perfect example of why such    treaty provisions are so useful: if not essential. Doctorow is    there actually quoting Julian    Assange which is perhaps why that quote manages to get this    entirely the wrong way around. But it confuses even when its    Assange himself saying such things. Wikileaks has shown us that    certain governments are, at certain times, lying hounds. But as    soon as we come to matters of economic governance theyre pure    as the driven snow? What?  <\/p>\n<p>    For heres what has actually happened in that Chevron and    Ecuador case. Yes, yes, theres lots of accusations one way    and the other but a rough outline seems to be that the    Ecuadorean court that Chevron was dragged before was, how shall    we put this, less respectful of the full evidence than we might    hope for? For we have at least one other court declaring that    the plaintiffs had actually been writing parts of the    supposedly expert and neutral evidence. And again, at least one    non-Ecuadorean court finding that corrupt means had been used    to gain the original verdict in the Ecuadorean courts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Please note that Im not arguing that Chevron did or did not    pollute the area in which they drilled for oil. Nor that they    shouldnt clean it up if they did, or that it was right or    wrong for Ecuador to sign off that Chevron owed no more in this    matter (or whether such a sign off happened, or is legal if it    did). My argument is much simpler than that. Given what we know    has been happening in this case who is going to trust the    Ecuadorean courts on this matter? Quite: thus it all needs to    be decided by some non-Ecuadorean legal system. Which is    exactly what is happening under the investment chapter of the    trade agreement which covers this matter, with arbitration    running through The Hague.  <\/p>\n<p>    So, far, from this Chevron case being an example of the terrors    to which TTIP will subject the world its an example of why we    actually want such investor protections. Because if the    government controls the courts and the government is also the    actor changing the law then we really might not want those    courts to be deciding upon who should be compensated over    changes in the law.  <\/p>\n<p>    We can pick another example as well: anyone want to ask    Bill    Browder about how lovely it is to have the Russian courts    ruling on his cases in Russia?  <\/p>\n<p>    Investors deserve and need protection from government. And when    in a foreign country we need that protection to come from some    judicial system that is not under the control of said    government.  <\/p>\n<p>    Think of it this way for a moment. Here in Europe weve got the    European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. This is part of    the Council of Europe, not the European Union. And the basic    contention of the entire system is that we cannot, not always    at least, trust the governments of the nation states to    properly protect the human rights of the citizenry. We thus    have a legal system outside, and above, those national systems    to ensure that such human rights are fully protected. All that    the investment chapter in TTIP is doing is creating a similar    system for the economic rights of investors in foreign    countries. If your argument is that youve been done over by    the local government then you probably dont want your case    about it being run through the local courts presumably under    the control of that local government.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>See the article here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.forbes.com\/sites\/timworstall\/2015\/03\/28\/wikileaks-ttp-leak-chevron-and-ecuador-is-the-argument-in-favour-of-the-investment-chapter\" title=\"Wikileaks TTP Leak; Chevron And Ecuador Is The Argument In Favour Of The Investment Chapter\">Wikileaks TTP Leak; Chevron And Ecuador Is The Argument In Favour Of The Investment Chapter<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> Wikileaks has released a version of the investment chapter in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement, the trade treaty under discussion at present. As a result the usual suspects are up in arms about the denial of democracy, the selling out of the law to corporate interests and all the usual malarkey. All most puzzling as the actual intention of this part of this treaty is to ensure that governments have to live up to the laws and contracts that they, as governments, sign up to. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[50],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-30075","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wikileaks"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30075"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=30075"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/30075\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=30075"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=30075"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=30075"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}