{"id":27530,"date":"2014-11-19T23:43:13","date_gmt":"2014-11-20T04:43:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opensource.im\/?p=27530"},"modified":"2014-11-19T23:43:13","modified_gmt":"2014-11-20T04:43:13","slug":"before-snowden-a-debate-inside-nsa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/edward-snowden\/before-snowden-a-debate-inside-nsa.php","title":{"rendered":"Before Snowden, a debate inside NSA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    WASHINGTON (AP)  Years before Edward Snowden sparked a public    outcry with the disclosure that the National Security    Agency had been secretly collecting American telephone    records, some NSA executives voiced    strong objections to the program, current and former    intelligence officials say. The program exceeded the agencys mandate to    focus on foreign spying and would do little to stop terror    plots, the executives argued.  <\/p>\n<p>    The 2009 dissent, led by a senior NSA official and    embraced by others at the agency, prompted the    Obama administration to consider, but ultimately abandon, a    plan to stop gathering the records.  <\/p>\n<p>    The secret internal debate has not been previously reported.    The Senate on Tuesday rejected an    administration proposal that would have curbed the program and    left the records in the hands of telephone companies rather    than the government. That would be an arrangement similar to    the one the administration quietly rejected in 2009.  <\/p>\n<p>    The now-retired NSA official, a    longtime code-breaker who rose to top management, had just    learned in 2009 about the top secret program that was created    shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He says he argued to    then-NSA    Director Keith Alexander    that storing the calling records of nearly every American    fundamentally changed the character of the agency, which is    supposed to eavesdrop on foreigners, not Americans.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alexander politely    disagreed, the former official told The Associated Press.  <\/p>\n<p>    The former official, who spoke only on condition of anonymity    because he didnt have permission to discuss a classified    matter, said he knows of no evidence the program was used for    anything other than its stated purpose - to hunt for terrorism    plots in the U.S. But he said he and others made the case that    the collection of American records in bulk crossed a line that    he and his colleagues had been taught was sacrosanct.  <\/p>\n<p>    He said he also warned of a scandal if it should be disclosed    that the NSA    was storing records of private calls by Americans - to    psychiatrists, lovers and suicide hotlines among other    contacts.  <\/p>\n<p>    Alexander, who led the    NSA from 2005    until he retired last year, did not dispute the former    officials account, though he said he disagreed that the    program was improper.  <\/p>\n<p>    An individual did bring us these questions, and he had some    great points, Alexander    told the AP. I asked the technical folks, including him, to    look at it,  <\/p>\n<p>    By 2009, several former officials said, concern about the 215    program, so-called for the authorizing provision of the USA    Patriot Act, had grown inside NSAs Fort Meade,    Maryland, headquarters to the point that the programs    intelligence value was being questioned. That was partly true    because, for technical and other reasons, NSA was not capturing    most mobile calling records, which were an increasing share of    the domestic calling universe, the former officials said.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Go here to see the original:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtontimes.com\/news\/2014\/nov\/19\/ap-exclusive-before-snowden-a-debate-inside-nsa\/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS\/RK=0\/RS=luHUZ6IQMCz5w41WCOBjNubEwaE-\" title=\"Before Snowden, a debate inside NSA\">Before Snowden, a debate inside NSA<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> WASHINGTON (AP) Years before Edward Snowden sparked a public outcry with the disclosure that the National Security Agency had been secretly collecting American telephone records, some NSA executives voiced strong objections to the program, current and former intelligence officials say. The program exceeded the agencys mandate to focus on foreign spying and would do little to stop terror plots, the executives argued. The 2009 dissent, led by a senior NSA official and embraced by others at the agency, prompted the Obama administration to consider, but ultimately abandon, a plan to stop gathering the records. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27530","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-edward-snowden"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27530"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27530"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27530\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27530"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27530"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27530"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}