{"id":23636,"date":"2014-06-03T21:41:53","date_gmt":"2014-06-04T01:41:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.opensource.im\/?p=23636"},"modified":"2014-06-03T21:41:53","modified_gmt":"2014-06-04T01:41:53","slug":"the-five-dumbest-ways-that-people-defend-nsa-spying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/nsa-spying\/the-five-dumbest-ways-that-people-defend-nsa-spying.php","title":{"rendered":"The Five Dumbest Ways That People Defend NSA Spying"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>    S  <\/p>\n<p>    Over the past year, as the Snowden revelations have rolled out,    the government and its apologists have developed a set of    talking points about mass spying that the public has now heard    over and over again. From the President, to Hilary Clinton to    Rep. Mike Rogers, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and many others, the    arguments are often eerily similar.  <\/p>\n<p>    But as we approach the one year anniversary, it's time to call    out the key claims that have been thoroughly debunked and    insist that the NSA apologists retire them.  <\/p>\n<p>    So if you hear any one of these in the future, you can tell    yourself straight up: \"this person isn't credible,\" and look    elsewhere for current information about the NSA spying. And if    these are still in your talking points (you know who you are)    it's time to retire them if you want to remain credible. And    next time, the talking points should stand the test of time.  <\/p>\n<p>    The discredited claim: NSA defenders have    thrown out many claims about how NSA surveillance has protected    us from terrorists, including repeatedly declaring that it has    thwarted 54 plots. Rep. Mike Rogerssays it often. Only weeks after the first Snowden    leak, US President Barack Obama claimed: \"We know of at least 50 threats    that have been averted\" because of the NSA's spy powers. Former    NSA Director Gen. Keith Alexander also repeatedly claimed that    those programs thwarted 54 different attacks.  <\/p>\n<p>    Others, including former Vice President Dick Cheney have claimed    that had the bulk spying programs in place, the government    could have stopped the 9\/11 bombings, specifically noting that    the government needed the program to locate Khalid al Mihdhar,    a hijacker who was living in San Diego.  <\/p>\n<p>    Why it's not credible:These claims have been thoroughly debunked. First, the    claim that the information stopped 54 terrorist plots fell    completely apart. In dramatic Congressional testimony, Sen. Leahy forced    a formal retraction from NSA Director Alexander in October,    2013:  <\/p>\n<p>      \"Would you agree that the 54 cases that keep getting cited by      the administration were not all plots, and of the 54, only 13      had some nexus to the U.S.?\" Leahy said at the hearing.      \"Would you agree with that, yes or no?\"    <\/p>\n<p>      \"Yes,\" Alexander replied, without elaborating.    <\/p>\n<p>    But that didn't stop the apologists. We keep hearing the\"54    plots\" line to this day.  <\/p>\n<p><!-- Auto Generated --><\/p>\n<p>Read the original here:<br \/>\n<a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/gizmodo.com\/the-five-dumbest-ways-that-people-defend-nsa-spying-1585242095\/RK=0\/RS=ytfyrHY2ODJ8oev3KJltY3yHPvA-\" title=\"The Five Dumbest Ways That People Defend NSA Spying\">The Five Dumbest Ways That People Defend NSA Spying<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> S Over the past year, as the Snowden revelations have rolled out, the government and its apologists have developed a set of talking points about mass spying that the public has now heard over and over again. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[46],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23636","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nsa-spying"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23636"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=23636"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23636\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=23636"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=23636"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/euvolution.com\/open-source-convergence\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=23636"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}