Libertarian pundit John Stossel admitted to Bill OReilly tonight that he cant join in the libertarian outrage over the NSA surveilling Americans private communications because it just doesnt bother him that much. He argued that privacy is already being violated en masse by large companies like Google and Facebook. OReilly challenged him, saying that there should be cause for concern due to potential government abuse like in the case of the IRS.

Stossel told OReilly, My privacy is already blown Amazon knows, Facebook knows all kinds of things about me. OReilly admitted hes confused by all this tech stuff, saying that while he can understand websites like his own being able to track who pops on and goes to certain pages, he cant imagine how these sites are tracking all sorts of user information.

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Stossel shrugged his shoulders and said it could happen, but ultimately, I figure everything is out there, I try not to have secrets. He did admit there is a difference between companies monitoring user data and nations monitoring the peoples data, because Google and Facebook cant lock me up or kill me.

OReillly shot back that there is strong potential for abuse if someone involved in the surveillance leaks information through improper and illegal channels. Stossel acknowledged his position has put him at odds with his fellow libertarians, saying Ive been called a traitor to the libertarian cause. He concluded by the segment by saying it should be an outrage that four million people are given the security clearance to see these programs in action.

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Stossel Admits To O’Reilly He’s Okay With NSA Snooping: Libertarians Calling Me ‘Traitor’