Tinus Le Rouxs company, FanCam, takes high-resolution photos of crowds having fun. That might be at Busch Stadium, where FanCam is installed, or on Market Street, where FanCam set up its technology to capture Blues fans celebrating after the Stanley Cup victory.

As photos, theyre a fun souvenir. But paired with artificial intelligence, theyre something more: a tool that gives professional sports teams a much more detailed look at whos in the audience, including their estimated age and gender. The idea, he explained Thursday on St. Louis on the Air, is to help teams understand their fans a bit better understand when theyre leaving their seats, what merchandise are they wearing?

Now that the pandemic has made crowd size a matter of public health, Le Roux noted that FanCam can help teams tell whether the audience has swelled past 25% capacity or how many patrons are wearing masks.

But for all the technologys power, Le Roux believes in limits. He explained that he is not interested in technology that would allow him to identify individuals in the crowd.

We dont touch facial recognition. Ethically, its dubious, he said. In fact, Im passionately against the use of facial recognition in public spaces. What we do is use computer vision to analyze these images for more generalized data.

Not all tech companies share those concerns. Detroit now uses facial recognition as an investigatory tool. Earlier this year, that practice led to the wrongful arrest of a Black man. The ACLU has now filed a lawsuit seeking to stop the practice there.

Locally, Sara Baker, policy director for the ACLU of Missouri, said the concerns go far beyond facial recognition.

The way in which many technologies are being used, on the surface, the purpose is benign, she said. The other implication of that is, what rights are we willing to sacrifice in order to engage with those technologies? And that centers, really, on your right to privacy, and if you are consenting to being surveilled or not, and how that data is being used on the back end as well.

Baker cited the license readers now in place around the city, as well as Persistent Surveillance Systems attempts to bring aerial surveillance to the city as a potential concern. The Board of Aldermen has encouraged Mayor Lyda Krewson to enter negotiations with the company as a way to stop crime, although Baltimores experience with the technology has yet to yield the promised results.

That could involve surveillance of the entire city, Baker said. In Baltimore, that means 90% of outdoor activities are surveilled. I think were getting to a point where we need to have robust conversations like this when were putting our privacy rights on the line, because I think we have a shared value of wanting to keep some aspects of our lives private to ourselves.

To that end, Baker said shed like to see the St. Louis Board of Aldermen pass Board Bill 95, which would regulate surveillance in the city. She said it offers common sense guardrails for how surveillance is used in the city.

Other than California and Illinois, Le Roux said, few states have even grappled with technologys capabilities.

I think the legal framework is still behind, and we need to catch up, Le Roux said.

Le Roux will be speaking more about the ethical issues around facial recognition at Prepare.ais Prepare 2020 conference. The St. Louis-based nonprofit hosts the annual conference to explore issues around artificial intelligence. (Thanks to the ongoing pandemic, Prepare 2020 is now entirely virtual and entirely free.)

Prepare.ais mission is to increase collaboration around fourth-industrial revolution technologies in order to advance the human experience.

Le Roux said he hopes more tech leaders and those who understand the building blocks of technology have a seat at the table as regulations are being written. And Baker said her hope is that local governments proceed with caution in turning to new technologies being touted as a way to solve crime.

We have over 600 cameras in the city of St. Louis, she said. Weve spent up to $100,000 a pop on different surveillance technologies, and weve spent over $4 million in the past three years on these types of surveillance technologies, and weve done it without any real audit or understanding of how the data is being used, and whether its being used ethically. And that is what needs to change.

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What: Prepare 2020

When: Now through Oct. 28

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